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I know price will vary wildly based on how many you’re buying, but does anyone have the roughest ballpark for how much it would cost to buy one (1), or like two

I know price will vary wildly based on how many you’re buying, but does anyone have the roughest ballpark for how much it would cost to buy one (1), or like two?

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wg0 3y ago
I would assume a million dollar. Ballpark.
- Aachen 3y ago
  I mean, the raw hardware surely costs around 100k, and no way that it costs more than ten million, so you're always going to be right with that "ballpark" qualification
  - wg0 3y ago
    I vaguely remember listening to their pod cast and my impression was that it starts around 500k. Add few add ons, service contract, support etc so would be there. I want such a rack but power draw on average is listed around 12kwh. Unbelievable.
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yardie 3y ago
They mentioned it really quickly in their Oxide an Friends podcast but, IIRC, prices start at $500k. Some of the audience asked if they were going to do a smaller configuration like half or quarter rack. And they said they were looking into it but weren't sure the of the business case.
- MichaelZuo 3y ago
  So the real question is whether 1 Oxide rack can outcompete 2 or 3 racks of normal commodity hardware. Or provide enough white glove after-sales support and written guarantees to peel away low end mainframe customers at a fraction of the price.
  - throw0101c 3y ago
    > So the real question is whether 1 Oxide rack can outcompete 2 or 3 racks of normal commodity hardware. Given their management plane/API: * https://docs.oxide.computer/api/guides/responses https://docs.oxide.computer/api/guides/responses the performance may be about the same, and CapEx as well (or maybe a little higher), but OpEx could be where you make it up in large(r)-scale operations. And space efficiency is also not to be sneezed at: for some operations DCs/compute can be place anywhere because latency is that big of a deal, but in other places you need to be close to certain things (trading), and real estate can get expensive.
- dmix 3y ago
  I don’t know anything about buying servers, is that expensive?
  - darkwater 3y ago
    It depends on how many servers you put in a rack. It's been years now I did this kind of work but I would say that an average rack with 20-25U in computing, 5-10 in storage and 5 in networking will cost you 300k$ easily. I'm pretty sure that Oxide will be more an Apple-esque experience, also on the price side, so a "normal" rack giving the same performances will be cheaper but if you want Oxide you are looking for other features beside the pure HW.
    - gorkish 3y ago
      At the leading edge, the configuration you just described is probably more like $800k
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dbancajas 3y ago
Follow up question would be how much are equivalent solutions from established rack providers?

I know price will vary wildly based on how many you’re buying, but does anyone have the roughest ballpark for how much it would cost to buy one (1), or like two?

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wg0 3y ago

I would assume a million dollar. Ballpark.

Aachen 3y ago
I mean, the raw hardware surely costs around 100k, and no way that it costs more than ten million, so you're always going to be right with that "ballpark" qualification
- wg0 3y ago
  I vaguely remember listening to their pod cast and my impression was that it starts around 500k. Add few add ons, service contract, support etc so would be there. I want such a rack but power draw on average is listed around 12kwh. Unbelievable.

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yardie 3y ago

They mentioned it really quickly in their Oxide an Friends podcast but, IIRC, prices start at $500k. Some of the audience asked if they were going to do a smaller configuration like half or quarter rack. And they said they were looking into it but weren't sure the of the business case.

MichaelZuo 3y ago
So the real question is whether 1 Oxide rack can outcompete 2 or 3 racks of normal commodity hardware. Or provide enough white glove after-sales support and written guarantees to peel away low end mainframe customers at a fraction of the price.
- throw0101c 3y ago
  > So the real question is whether 1 Oxide rack can outcompete 2 or 3 racks of normal commodity hardware. Given their management plane/API: * https://docs.oxide.computer/api/guides/responses https://docs.oxide.computer/api/guides/responses the performance may be about the same, and CapEx as well (or maybe a little higher), but OpEx could be where you make it up in large(r)-scale operations. And space efficiency is also not to be sneezed at: for some operations DCs/compute can be place anywhere because latency is that big of a deal, but in other places you need to be close to certain things (trading), and real estate can get expensive.
dmix 3y ago
I don’t know anything about buying servers, is that expensive?
- darkwater 3y ago
  It depends on how many servers you put in a rack. It's been years now I did this kind of work but I would say that an average rack with 20-25U in computing, 5-10 in storage and 5 in networking will cost you 300k$ easily. I'm pretty sure that Oxide will be more an Apple-esque experience, also on the price side, so a "normal" rack giving the same performances will be cheaper but if you want Oxide you are looking for other features beside the pure HW.
  - gorkish 3y ago
    At the leading edge, the configuration you just described is probably more like $800k
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dbancajas 3y ago

Follow up question would be how much are equivalent solutions from established rack providers?