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So just hyperconverged infrastructure with a cute name?

by steve1977 3y ago

danpalmer 3y ago
“Just” is doing a lot of lifting in that sentence. This achievement is clearly worth a lot to people.
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throw0101a 3y ago
With rack- and multi-rack-level management of all your hardware infrastructure (including networking and storage, along with VMs) using an API: * https://docs.oxide.computer/api/guides/responses https://docs.oxide.computer/api/guides/responses
- steve1977 3y ago
  Yeah including networking and storage together with virtualization is what makes hyperconverged infrastructure hyperconverged. Otherwise it's usually just called converged infrastructure. It's nice, it's just nothing new.
  - sanderjd 3y ago
    It's not a new concept, it's a new product. Ideas do not become uninteresting the moment the first person instantiates the idea. Further iterations on a possibly-good idea are also interesting.
  - intelVISA 3y ago
    oh, you tease.
  - freeopinion 3y ago
    So, you're saying this is just ho-hum, and you're sticking with your IBM 700 from the 1950s?
zeckalpha 3y ago
Mainframes!
- throw0101c 3y ago
  With source code availability: https://github.com/oxidecomputer https://github.com/oxidecomputer
  - Annatar 3y ago
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- zozbot234 3y ago
  "Real" mainframes have RAS (Reliability, Availability, Servicing) features such as hotswapping for all hardware components and automated HA/workload migration across physical racks. They can also do SSI (single system image), i.e. run a single workload across physical nodes/racks as if it was just multiple 'cores' in a single shared-memory computer. Oxide computers will probably end up doing at least some of this (namely workload migration across racks for HA) but saying that it can comprehensively replace mainframe hardware as-is is a bit of a stretch. In terms of existing hardware it's closer to a midrange computer.
  - NortySpock 3y ago
    The Oxide and Friends podcast had an episode on virtualizing time, specifically for the purpose of live-migrating a container from rack to rack without the VM being aware, and allowing operators to take the rack offline on their schedule. Otherwise, apparently, you end up having to leave racks running because you cannot evacuate all of the containers currently running on it. (e.g. perhaps your contracts or SLAs are such that you cannot afford even the few seconds of downtime a shut-down-here-and-spin-up-elsewhere would cause) I believe the episode name was "Virtualizing Time" https://pca.st/episode/c10ce39c-1348-407f-b9c2-a36ced4e6be8 https://pca.st/episode/c10ce39c-1348-407f-b9c2-a36ced4e6be8
  - ahhfgsado6698 3y ago
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dustingetz 3y ago
way better explanation than the website copy "no cables no assembly just cloud" wtf is that
- steveklabnik 3y ago
  Obviously different marketing copy speaks to different people. But that is referring to how, when you buy a rack from us, you don't need to put everything together and cable it all up: you pull it out of the box, plug in networking and power, boot the thing up, and you're good to go. Installation time is hours, not days or weeks, which is the norm.
  - MichaelZuo 3y ago
    Will you be selling services as well, such as taking care of installation, boot up, testing, validation, etc., for a fee?
    - steveklabnik 3y ago
      At this stage of the company, everyone gets a white-glove installation process. I suspect that will change over time but I don't work on that part of things, so I don't personally know the details.
      - MichaelZuo 3y ago
        Thanks, are the specific details standardized and available in writing? Or is it more tailored to each customer?
        steveklabnik 3y ago
        Sorry to be slightly obtuse, which details are you referring to here? Help upon installation? At the moment, we are helping customers individually, yeah. But we do have a documented process we are following https://docs.oxide.computer/guides/system/rack-installation-process https://docs.oxide.computer/guides/system/rack-installation-... (and more on other pages there)
rcxdude 3y ago
Available to buy turnkey, not just rented out.
unixhero 3y ago
There is no just in hyper

So just hyperconverged infrastructure with a cute name?

danpalmer 3y ago

“Just” is doing a lot of lifting in that sentence. This achievement is clearly worth a lot to people.

deleted 3y ago
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throw0101a 3y ago

With rack- and multi-rack-level management of all your hardware infrastructure (including networking and storage, along with VMs) using an API: * https://docs.oxide.computer/api/guides/responses https://docs.oxide.computer/api/guides/responses

steve1977 3y ago
Yeah including networking and storage together with virtualization is what makes hyperconverged infrastructure hyperconverged. Otherwise it's usually just called converged infrastructure. It's nice, it's just nothing new.
- sanderjd 3y ago
  It's not a new concept, it's a new product. Ideas do not become uninteresting the moment the first person instantiates the idea. Further iterations on a possibly-good idea are also interesting.
- intelVISA 3y ago
  oh, you tease.
- freeopinion 3y ago
  So, you're saying this is just ho-hum, and you're sticking with your IBM 700 from the 1950s?

zeckalpha 3y ago

Mainframes!

throw0101c 3y ago
With source code availability: https://github.com/oxidecomputer https://github.com/oxidecomputer
- Annatar 3y ago
  [dead]
zozbot234 3y ago
"Real" mainframes have RAS (Reliability, Availability, Servicing) features such as hotswapping for all hardware components and automated HA/workload migration across physical racks. They can also do SSI (single system image), i.e. run a single workload across physical nodes/racks as if it was just multiple 'cores' in a single shared-memory computer. Oxide computers will probably end up doing at least some of this (namely workload migration across racks for HA) but saying that it can comprehensively replace mainframe hardware as-is is a bit of a stretch. In terms of existing hardware it's closer to a midrange computer.
- NortySpock 3y ago
  The Oxide and Friends podcast had an episode on virtualizing time, specifically for the purpose of live-migrating a container from rack to rack without the VM being aware, and allowing operators to take the rack offline on their schedule. Otherwise, apparently, you end up having to leave racks running because you cannot evacuate all of the containers currently running on it. (e.g. perhaps your contracts or SLAs are such that you cannot afford even the few seconds of downtime a shut-down-here-and-spin-up-elsewhere would cause) I believe the episode name was "Virtualizing Time" https://pca.st/episode/c10ce39c-1348-407f-b9c2-a36ced4e6be8 https://pca.st/episode/c10ce39c-1348-407f-b9c2-a36ced4e6be8
- ahhfgsado6698 3y ago
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dustingetz 3y ago

way better explanation than the website copy "no cables no assembly just cloud" wtf is that

steveklabnik 3y ago
Obviously different marketing copy speaks to different people. But that is referring to how, when you buy a rack from us, you don't need to put everything together and cable it all up: you pull it out of the box, plug in networking and power, boot the thing up, and you're good to go. Installation time is hours, not days or weeks, which is the norm.
- MichaelZuo 3y ago
  Will you be selling services as well, such as taking care of installation, boot up, testing, validation, etc., for a fee?
  - steveklabnik 3y ago
    At this stage of the company, everyone gets a white-glove installation process. I suspect that will change over time but I don't work on that part of things, so I don't personally know the details.
    - MichaelZuo 3y ago
      Thanks, are the specific details standardized and available in writing? Or is it more tailored to each customer?
      - steveklabnik 3y ago
        Sorry to be slightly obtuse, which details are you referring to here? Help upon installation? At the moment, we are helping customers individually, yeah. But we do have a documented process we are following https://docs.oxide.computer/guides/system/rack-installation-process https://docs.oxide.computer/guides/system/rack-installation-... (and more on other pages there)

rcxdude 3y ago

Available to buy turnkey, not just rented out.

unixhero 3y ago

There is no just in hyper