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> They sell servers, but as a finished product. They sell rack-as-compute.[0] Their minimum order is one rack: You plug in power and network, connect to the bu
by throw0101a 3y ago
> They sell servers, but as a finished product.
They sell rack-as-compute.[0] Their minimum order is one rack: You plug in power and network, connect to the built-in management software (API), and start spinning up VMs.
[0] With built-in networking and storage.
- steve1977 3y agoSo just hyperconverged infrastructure with a cute name?
- danpalmer 3y ago“Just” is doing a lot of lifting in that sentence. This achievement is clearly worth a lot to people.
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- throw0101a 3y agoWith rack- and multi-rack-level management of all your hardware infrastructure (including networking and storage, along with VMs) using an API: * https://docs.oxide.computer/api/guides/responses https://docs.oxide.computer/api/guides/responses
- steve1977 3y agoYeah including networking and storage together with virtualization is what makes hyperconverged infrastructure hyperconverged. Otherwise it's usually just called converged infrastructure. It's nice, it's just nothing new.
- sanderjd 3y agoIt's not a new concept, it's a new product. Ideas do not become uninteresting the moment the first person instantiates the idea. Further iterations on a possibly-good idea are also interesting.
- intelVISA 3y agooh, you tease.
- freeopinion 3y agoSo, you're saying this is just ho-hum, and you're sticking with your IBM 700 from the 1950s?
- zeckalpha 3y agoMainframes!
- throw0101c 3y agoWith source code availability: https://github.com/oxidecomputer https://github.com/oxidecomputer
- Annatar 3y ago[dead]
- zozbot234 3y ago"Real" mainframes have RAS (Reliability, Availability, Servicing) features such as hotswapping for all hardware components and automated HA/workload migration across physical racks. They can also do SSI (single system image), i.e. run a single workload across physical nodes/racks as if it was just multiple 'cores' in a single shared-memory computer. Oxide computers will probably end up doing at least some of this (namely workload migration across racks for HA) but saying that it can comprehensively replace mainframe hardware as-is is a bit of a stretch. In terms of existing hardware it's closer to a midrange computer.
- NortySpock 3y agoThe Oxide and Friends podcast had an episode on virtualizing time, specifically for the purpose of live-migrating a container from rack to rack without the VM being aware, and allowing operators to take the rack offline on their schedule. Otherwise, apparently, you end up having to leave racks running because you cannot evacuate all of the containers currently running on it. (e.g. perhaps your contracts or SLAs are such that you cannot afford even the few seconds of downtime a shut-down-here-and-spin-up-elsewhere would cause) I believe the episode name was "Virtualizing Time" https://pca.st/episode/c10ce39c-1348-407f-b9c2-a36ced4e6be8 https://pca.st/episode/c10ce39c-1348-407f-b9c2-a36ced4e6be8
- ahhfgsado6698 3y ago[dead]
- dustingetz 3y agoway better explanation than the website copy "no cables no assembly just cloud" wtf is that
- steveklabnik 3y agoObviously different marketing copy speaks to different people. But that is referring to how, when you buy a rack from us, you don't need to put everything together and cable it all up: you pull it out of the box, plug in networking and power, boot the thing up, and you're good to go. Installation time is hours, not days or weeks, which is the norm.
- MichaelZuo 3y agoWill you be selling services as well, such as taking care of installation, boot up, testing, validation, etc., for a fee?
- steveklabnik 3y agoAt this stage of the company, everyone gets a white-glove installation process. I suspect that will change over time but I don't work on that part of things, so I don't personally know the details.
- MichaelZuo 3y agoThanks, are the specific details standardized and available in writing? Or is it more tailored to each customer?
- steveklabnik 3y agoSorry to be slightly obtuse, which details are you referring to here? Help upon installation? At the moment, we are helping customers individually, yeah. But we do have a documented process we are following https://docs.oxide.computer/guides/system/rack-installation-process https://docs.oxide.computer/guides/system/rack-installation-... (and more on other pages there)
- rcxdude 3y agoAvailable to buy turnkey, not just rented out.
- unixhero 3y agoThere is no just in hyper
- otabdeveloper4 3y ago[flagged]
- pclmulqdq 3y agoWhen you start a container in AWS, do you think Amazon is letting you run that without a VM? VMs are pretty lightweight these days.
- drzaiusx11 3y agoWith hypervisor support it really isn't
- otabdeveloper4 3y agoWhat this guy said: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38024122 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38024122 If you have a rack like that you'd probably want it to run a real database or server backend.
- quickthrower2 3y agoHave they basically done for the data centre what iMac did for computers in about year 1999 (or whenever!)
- repelsteeltje 3y ago> what iMac did for computers in about year 1999 Ehrm. What is that exactly? Are you alluding to cute design, different user interface? Or ditching then common PC component modularity? "Thinking differently"? One difference is that Oxide development was done in the open and they don't seem hell bent on creating a closed ecosystem. (Yet, at least)
- steveklabnik 3y agoI think Oxide shares one idea with Apple: hardware and software should be created for each other. In that sense, your parent is correct. You are also correct that we diverge from Apple in other ways, such as our commitment to openness, rather than secrecy.
- quickthrower2 3y agoYes. I imagine I got downvoted because it sounds like a snark but it wasn’t meant to be.
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- sangnoir 3y ago> Ehrm. What is that exactly? The first iMac famously made it easy to connect to the Internet; The 'i' in iMac was for "Internet". Its setup manual was a couple of pages long, mostly pictures and IIRC, just 37 words.
- nonameiguess 3y agoBrutal downvotes. I guess people forget the old Jeff Goldblum commercials? "There is no step 3." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX4PzvWgu6c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX4PzvWgu6c
- cryptonector 3y agoIt would be interesting to sell a data center in a container. Cooling, power supply, compute, storage, and network, all in a box. You supply power, a big network pipe, and the piping to external heat exchangers.
- c_o_n_v_e_x 3y agoThere are quite a few companies selling “modular data centers” now.
- dthul 3y agoI know one company who offers that (there might be more): https://www.grando.ai/en/container https://www.grando.ai/en/container
- anewlanguage 3y agoAWS does that already for the defense industry: https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/publicsector/announcing-aws-modular-data-center-u-s-department-defense-joint-warfighting-cloud-capability https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/publicsector/announcing-aws-mod...
- jjav 3y ago> It would be interesting to sell a data center in a container. Sun did that experiment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Modular_Datacenter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Modular_Datacenter
- cryptonector 3y agoYeah, I'm aware, but I didn't think they were serious about it.
- ahl 3y agoThat's entirely fair: Sun wasn't serious about most of the products they rolled out... and customers noticed.
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