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IMHO the volume of hate isn't so much once you calibrate for Apple setting high expectations for its products, and Apple selling these products by the metric cr

IMHO the volume of hate isn't so much once you calibrate for Apple setting high expectations for its products, and Apple selling these products by the metric crap-ton.

quitit 3y ago
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psd1 3y ago
Thought: hate for a product is at least partially a factor of who buys it - or, more precisely, how often you see dickheads with it. Self-infatuated people are attracted to premium brands, and entitled people and premium brands are both more visible than the converse. Hands up if you've never been cut up in traffic by a BMW? Likewise, when someone cuts in line at a cafe and then sits down with a macbook, it's going to sensitise you to the failings of Apple
- simondotau 3y ago
  Perhaps next time someone holding an Apple device acts like a dick, maybe also take a look at what brand of shoes they're wearing. It's possible their dickishness is actually a consequence of being a Nike fanboy. It might sensitise you to the failings of Nike. Oh come now, that's ridiculous. Let's be real for a moment. No serious person would ever say that Nike is responsible for the coffee shop etiquette of people who wear their products. It's not the Nike shoes, it's obviously the Apple laptop.
  - psd1 3y ago
    Sure, but I'm not defending cognitive bias, merely describing it.
fennecfoxy 3y ago
Well the main thing is them creating stuff like this and intentionally locking others out of it. They're happy to use USB, Wifi, Bluetooth standards to further their business/because money. But they don't go "oh let's create a UWB standard that we can adopt across the industry to help people find lost devices/prevent theft". Like "air tags", gimped when used with Android. "Yeah, well that makes sense it's just good business practice". Yeah good for the business but shit for consumers, we should hold Apple _and_ all other companies to higher standards but humans aren't very good at working in groups of larger than like 5 people apparently.

IMHO the volume of hate isn't so much once you calibrate for Apple setting high expectations for its products, and Apple selling these products by the metric crap-ton.

quitit 3y ago

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psd1 3y ago

Thought: hate for a product is at least partially a factor of who buys it - or, more precisely, how often you see dickheads with it. Self-infatuated people are attracted to premium brands, and entitled people and premium brands are both more visible than the converse. Hands up if you've never been cut up in traffic by a BMW? Likewise, when someone cuts in line at a cafe and then sits down with a macbook, it's going to sensitise you to the failings of Apple

simondotau 3y ago
Perhaps next time someone holding an Apple device acts like a dick, maybe also take a look at what brand of shoes they're wearing. It's possible their dickishness is actually a consequence of being a Nike fanboy. It might sensitise you to the failings of Nike. Oh come now, that's ridiculous. Let's be real for a moment. No serious person would ever say that Nike is responsible for the coffee shop etiquette of people who wear their products. It's not the Nike shoes, it's obviously the Apple laptop.
- psd1 3y ago
  Sure, but I'm not defending cognitive bias, merely describing it.

fennecfoxy 3y ago

Well the main thing is them creating stuff like this and intentionally locking others out of it. They're happy to use USB, Wifi, Bluetooth standards to further their business/because money. But they don't go "oh let's create a UWB standard that we can adopt across the industry to help people find lost devices/prevent theft". Like "air tags", gimped when used with Android. "Yeah, well that makes sense it's just good business practice". Yeah good for the business but shit for consumers, we should hold Apple _and_ all other companies to higher standards but humans aren't very good at working in groups of larger than like 5 people apparently.