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The First Cyber Nation-State Recognized by a UN Member Nation
- thriftwy 3y agoIs it a reissue of LUNA/TERRA? What is the nation which recognizes their statehood? Russian Empire did recognize pre-Japanese colonization Korea likely, I don't see how this implies Russian Federation having any relations with this "cyber nation". It is listed nontheless.
- timenova 3y agoThis page [0] shows its Antigua and Barbuda [0] https://www.joseon.com/l/en-US/government/foreign-relations https://www.joseon.com/l/en-US/government/foreign-relations
- h4kor 3y agoCrypto scam run by the korean monarchy?
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- vmfunction 3y agoYeah seems goes along the same way at the Estonian digital citizenship that showed up here a few years ago. Does sound like a PR stunt. Personally wouldn't touch it.
- vmfunction 3y agommm has anyone used Estonian digital citizenship. Digital and citizenship just doesn't really sit well for me. But I can be wrong, looking for someone who have actually have a citizenship to comment on the all the legal implication, document manage, etc related to the digital citizenship.
- eddtries 3y agoI don't think the Estonian digital citizenship is anywhere near as bad as this, I thought it was a genuine way to get digital documentation within an EU state?
- jruohonen 3y agoIt's quite real, although, in a sense, the word "digital" is just a decoy. What they offer (e.g., digital signing of documents and online access to bureaucracy) should really be the default in the EU (or at least available in every member state, interoperably).
- jowea 3y agoA cursory look at the Estonian thing and it seems 1000% more legit than this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Residency_of_Estonia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Residency_of_Estonia
- workfromspace 3y agoIt's digital (or E-) residency, not citizenship. It provides an Estonian personal identification number and digital access to Estonian digital services (which is 99% of all government services + many private and banking sector). There are over 25,000 companies founded by E-residents, and most by people who does not reside in Estonia or even EU. You shouldn't compare a crypto-scam with such legit service. Source: Both physical and e-resident of Estonia.
- tokai 3y agoThe 10 diplomatic relationships are absolute bull and borderline fraud. You can't just make a club/org and claim older diplomatic agreements between countries are yours now.
- V__ 3y agoNo, you see the diplomatic relationships are "in transition" [1] and based on 150-year-old treaties, this is totally legit. /s [1] https://www.joseon.com/l/en-US/government/foreign-relations https://www.joseon.com/l/en-US/government/foreign-relations
- eddtries 3y agoThat treaty ran out in 1910, so even if somehow this successor state was a thing the treaty itself is void I think https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseon–United_States_Treaty_of_1882 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseon–United_States_Treaty_of...
- soco 3y agoTreaties between sides of that time, which are not necessarily the ones today only because someone says "we are the successor". So before talking treaties, let's talk legitimacy.
- jowea 3y agoReal international law comedy there. What's next, a Republic of Venice themed cryptocurrency? But I wonder what's up with the 2022 treaty with Antigua And Barbuda. A quick search shows what seems at first impression to be real Antiguan newspapers talking about it: https://antiguaobserver.com/the-digital-dynasty-joseon-pm-speaks-about-benefits-to-country/ https://antiguaobserver.com/the-digital-dynasty-joseon-pm-sp... edit: Looks like it's real. https://ab.gov.ag/pdf/Joseon_Cybernation.pdf https://ab.gov.ag/pdf/Joseon_Cybernation.pdf
- tokai 3y agoAllen Stanford apparently ran his ponzy scheme through Antigua And Barbuda. The country has been called the most corrupt in the world, is a major hub for gambling webpages, and has very strict bank secrecy making it a great place for off shore banking. https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/llglrd/2018298888/2018298888.pdf https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/llglrd/2018...
- alephnerd 3y agoYou can't just declare yourself a "successor state". Also, generally speaking, the generally recognized successor states to the Joseon dynasty are North and South Korea. Also, they only have recognition from Antigua and Barbuda, who will recognize your dog as a successor state if you pay them enough.
- eddtries 3y ago> As one of the most powerful and oldest nations in the world Who wrote this? How is this not satire? > Copyright (c) 1392-2023 Joseon. All Rights Reserved. Lol > 5900 Wilshire Blvd, Unit 2110, Los Angeles, CA 90036, United States One of the most powerful and oldest nations in the world is incorporated above an LA Fitness
- ninjin 3y agoInteresting, I knew that Andrew Lee [1] had been declared a crown prince by a pretender to the Korean crown (Yi Seok [2]) since stumbling upon the fact back around the Freenode implosion [3]. What ever this "nation" thing is though, it appears to be on a completely different level. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Lee_(entrepreneur) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Lee_(entrepreneur) [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yi_Seok https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yi_Seok [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenode#Ownership_change_and_conflict https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenode#Ownership_change_and_...
- lifthrasiir 3y agoIsn't that the same trick over and over? The website links to the Imperial Family Companies https://imperialfamily.com/ https://imperialfamily.com/ and the Imperial Family of Korea https://www.imperialfamily.kr/ https://www.imperialfamily.kr/ which even don't try to hide prior acts like Freenode.
- gerikson 3y agoIsn't this Andrew Lee of Freenode (in)fame?
- TazeTSchnitzel 3y agoIt is Mr Rasengan indeed.
- nextaccountic 3y agoIt's recognized by which UN member nation?
- dragoncrab 3y agoAntigua. Shame on me, but the first time I hear about this country...
- cesaref 3y agoI'm just waiting for bing/chatGPT to start telling us that this is real
- TazeTSchnitzel 3y agoThe Democratic People's Republic of Joseon (the DPRK) might take issue with this pretender's claim to that name. (Korea has two names in the Korean language and the North and South disagree over which name should be used; North Korea's preferred name happens to be Joseon.)
- BaudouinVH 3y agoI liked the idea until I discovered the web site is selling a crypto. I guess I will wait for the second Cyber Nation-State.
- bux93 3y agoThe Very Sovereign Cyber Nation-States of Prussia, the Ottoman empire and Spanish Florida would be pleased to sell you crypto. I hear that they are also very open to establishing diplomatic relations with Joseon, pursuant to a donation to my personal, I mean, the respective embassies' bitcoin wallets.
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- vesinisa 3y agoThis is a fraudulent advertisement for a cryptocurrency. How low are these cryptoshills willing to sink?
- oleg_antonyan 3y agoCryptoland without land. Ok.
- beej71 3y agoThis whole thing aside, I do like the concept of a virtual country and citizenship.
- znpy 3y agois this the new frontier of cryptocurrency stuff? it looks like an elaborate facade to push a cryptocurrency.