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Thank goodness. I'm very averse to using new languages or tools built after the cutoff date simply because GPT-4 can't answer my dumb little questions as effect

Thank goodness. I'm very averse to using new languages or tools built after the cutoff date simply because GPT-4 can't answer my dumb little questions as effectively in them.

lionkor 3y ago
Have you considered picking up a book or other traditional method of studying?
- frothymonk 3y ago
  No - I have a life outside of work/study and choose to maximize my productivity so I can focus on what really matters in life. I don't have time to sift through docs and heaps of stuff that isn't relevant to what I'm doing, when a solution to that exists.
- purplecats 3y ago
  Not OP, but no, similar to how I haven't considered studying by candlelight again even if my power goes out for a few hours.
  - lionkor 3y ago
    Maybe a better comparison would be to not go anywhere because you can use street view instead
- jwestbury 3y ago
  Not GP, but there are things which ChatGPT is just better for. I've been getting into the weeds with k8s a bit lately, but most of my past experience is just using platforms which abstract k8s away from me. So, when I run into issues, I often don't have the context necessary to formulate a good question for Google. But ChatGPT can typically understand my intention and not only respond to what I'm trying to ask, but give me a specific answer based on my circumstances; when I'm lacking context, StackOverflow answers often confuse more than help. I'm not saying there isn't a place for traditional learning -- it's still important. But ChatGPT is an absolutely massive boost to productivity when you're only dipping your toes into something new.
- hiAndrewQuinn 3y ago
  Have you considered setting a dollar value on your time? It's hard to get people to pay for the 50-100 hours you need to properly study even a short book in any amount of depth. It's even harder to justify when the answer to your question can likely be found in 30 seconds by hitting buttons on a machine.
  - lionkor 3y ago
    yes, my time is better spent learning something i will hardly forget rather than copy pasting slightly wrong code from an AI, its not a good use of my time, just like writing bad code isnt a good use of my time, even if its fast
    - prometheon1 3y ago
      Do you think everyone who learns things using ChatGPT does so by copy pasting? That's quite an assumption
- tomjen3 3y ago
  Not OP, but why use a tool that is much slower than another tool, just because the old one is older. Old tech has its place, but I can get e.g a caddyfile that works for me quicker with ChatGPT than in any other way.

Thank goodness. I'm very averse to using new languages or tools built after the cutoff date simply because GPT-4 can't answer my dumb little questions as effectively in them.

lionkor 3y ago

Have you considered picking up a book or other traditional method of studying?

frothymonk 3y ago
No - I have a life outside of work/study and choose to maximize my productivity so I can focus on what really matters in life. I don't have time to sift through docs and heaps of stuff that isn't relevant to what I'm doing, when a solution to that exists.
purplecats 3y ago
Not OP, but no, similar to how I haven't considered studying by candlelight again even if my power goes out for a few hours.
- lionkor 3y ago
  Maybe a better comparison would be to not go anywhere because you can use street view instead
jwestbury 3y ago
Not GP, but there are things which ChatGPT is just better for. I've been getting into the weeds with k8s a bit lately, but most of my past experience is just using platforms which abstract k8s away from me. So, when I run into issues, I often don't have the context necessary to formulate a good question for Google. But ChatGPT can typically understand my intention and not only respond to what I'm trying to ask, but give me a specific answer based on my circumstances; when I'm lacking context, StackOverflow answers often confuse more than help. I'm not saying there isn't a place for traditional learning -- it's still important. But ChatGPT is an absolutely massive boost to productivity when you're only dipping your toes into something new.
hiAndrewQuinn 3y ago
Have you considered setting a dollar value on your time? It's hard to get people to pay for the 50-100 hours you need to properly study even a short book in any amount of depth. It's even harder to justify when the answer to your question can likely be found in 30 seconds by hitting buttons on a machine.
- lionkor 3y ago
  yes, my time is better spent learning something i will hardly forget rather than copy pasting slightly wrong code from an AI, its not a good use of my time, just like writing bad code isnt a good use of my time, even if its fast
  - prometheon1 3y ago
    Do you think everyone who learns things using ChatGPT does so by copy pasting? That's quite an assumption
tomjen3 3y ago
Not OP, but why use a tool that is much slower than another tool, just because the old one is older. Old tech has its place, but I can get e.g a caddyfile that works for me quicker with ChatGPT than in any other way.