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> infrastructure Imagine if anyone, not just Apple, could build on that, creating an automatic sneakernet. Populous areas without cell towers would come online

> infrastructure Imagine if anyone, not just Apple, could build on that, creating an automatic sneakernet. Populous areas without cell towers would come online, with ultra high latency. Throughput would also need to be throttled by the owner of each device to accommodate battery consumption preferences.

audunw 3y ago
We’re not that far off from the planet being covered with low bandwidth internet anyway. NB-IOT and LTE-M, along with the possibility that SpaceX can use Starlink satellites to provide low bandwidth LTE coverage, seems to give a viable path for global coverage soon Only problem is that in the short term NB-IoT/LTE-M devices are rather expensive, both upfront and monthly costs. Guess that will come down over time though
- GTP 3y ago
  > Only problem is that in the short term NB-IoT/LTE-M devices are rather expensive. I never heard of those before, but maybe LoRa gateways could work as a low-cost solution if having a very low bandwith isn't an issue?
AceJohnny2 3y ago
> Throughput would also need to be throttled by the owner of each device to accommodate battery consumption preferences. Ay, there's the rub!
tinus_hn 3y ago
Tile did exactly that. Except of course according to the privacy policy they track where everything and everyone is.
fastball 3y ago
Apple let's you build products for the Find My network.
LeoPanthera 3y ago
Third parties are allowed to use the Find My network. I have a Find My "credit card" in my wallet made by Chipolo.
- stavros 3y ago
  No they are not. They are allowed to create devices that can be found, but I can't use my Android phone to find an AirTag.
  - theshrike79 3y ago
    Yes you can, there's an official Apple app to do it: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apple.trackerdetect https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apple.trac... And a 3rd party tool that does even more: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.seemoo.at_tracking_detection.release https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.seemoo.at_t...
    - paddez 3y ago
      This does a different thing What OP means is that I cannot purchase an Airtag/Chipolo, and then subsequently find that Airtag using the Find My Network with my Android device. I can identify airtags around me with that App, but I cannot locate a missing Airtag.
      - neckro23 3y ago
        I was about to correct you saying "icloud.com works on any browser, even an Android phone", but then I went and looked and you can't locate AirTags (or people) using the Web version of Find My, just Apple devices. An odd omission on Apple's part.

audunw 3y ago

We’re not that far off from the planet being covered with low bandwidth internet anyway. NB-IOT and LTE-M, along with the possibility that SpaceX can use Starlink satellites to provide low bandwidth LTE coverage, seems to give a viable path for global coverage soon Only problem is that in the short term NB-IoT/LTE-M devices are rather expensive, both upfront and monthly costs. Guess that will come down over time though

GTP 3y ago
> Only problem is that in the short term NB-IoT/LTE-M devices are rather expensive. I never heard of those before, but maybe LoRa gateways could work as a low-cost solution if having a very low bandwith isn't an issue?

AceJohnny2 3y ago

> Throughput would also need to be throttled by the owner of each device to accommodate battery consumption preferences. Ay, there's the rub!

tinus_hn 3y ago

Tile did exactly that. Except of course according to the privacy policy they track where everything and everyone is.

fastball 3y ago

Apple let's you build products for the Find My network.

LeoPanthera 3y ago

Third parties are allowed to use the Find My network. I have a Find My "credit card" in my wallet made by Chipolo.

stavros 3y ago
No they are not. They are allowed to create devices that can be found, but I can't use my Android phone to find an AirTag.
- theshrike79 3y ago
  Yes you can, there's an official Apple app to do it: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apple.trackerdetect https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apple.trac... And a 3rd party tool that does even more: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.seemoo.at_tracking_detection.release https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.seemoo.at_t...
  - paddez 3y ago
    This does a different thing What OP means is that I cannot purchase an Airtag/Chipolo, and then subsequently find that Airtag using the Find My Network with my Android device. I can identify airtags around me with that App, but I cannot locate a missing Airtag.
    - neckro23 3y ago
      I was about to correct you saying "icloud.com works on any browser, even an Android phone", but then I went and looked and you can't locate AirTags (or people) using the Web version of Find My, just Apple devices. An odd omission on Apple's part.