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This itself is a childish and naive take. Elon, in my opinion, is an egotistical asshole who still does have humanity's best interests at heart . . . as he see

This itself is a childish and naive take. Elon, in my opinion, is an egotistical asshole who still does have humanity's best interests at heart . . . as he sees them. What your statement reveals is that you can't differentiate between humanity's best interests and humanity's best interests as you see them. For the sake of argument, you may be entirely right and, he may be entirely wrong. But your mode of argument still betrays an inability to understand that your view of humanity's best interests is not necessarily universalizable. Especially the fetish for mass transit. It has a use case, but is not a panacea for several reasons, many of which people who obsess over everyone living in cities choose to ignore.

freshpots 3y ago
Single-person commuter vehicles, even single-family vehicles, even if they are EV's, are a massive waste of resources and unsustainable in the long term. https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/opinion-electric-vehicles-car-dependence-1.6534893 https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/opinion-electric-vehicles-ca... The infrastructure around them (just one more lane and traffic will get better) is itself unsustainable. Our suburbs designed around cars are not dense enough to economically support them (roads, water, waste, etc) and the taxes required are bankrupting communities already. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IsMeKl-Sv0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IsMeKl-Sv0 To say they have a "fetish for mass transit" is both intentionally inflammatory and unnecessary. Also, it is essential for moving people around. Having personal vehicles sitting idle, worth $5K to easily $70K, for most of the day is a massive waste of resources, income, and more. Elon's imaginary robotaxis will not fix it. Everyone doesn't need to live in cities but everyone needs to start paying for what they consume instead of taking (from cities) from others (the future generations). We would need several Earth's if everyone lived like Americans.
- psunavy03 3y ago
  > We would need several Earth's if everyone lived like Americans. People keep saying this, yet technology keeps advancing, and the poorest people today live like the kings of centuries ago. Henry VIII didn't have an HDTV or a smartphone.

freshpots 3y ago

Single-person commuter vehicles, even single-family vehicles, even if they are EV's, are a massive waste of resources and unsustainable in the long term. https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/opinion-electric-vehicles-car-dependence-1.6534893 https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/opinion-electric-vehicles-ca... The infrastructure around them (just one more lane and traffic will get better) is itself unsustainable. Our suburbs designed around cars are not dense enough to economically support them (roads, water, waste, etc) and the taxes required are bankrupting communities already. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IsMeKl-Sv0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IsMeKl-Sv0 To say they have a "fetish for mass transit" is both intentionally inflammatory and unnecessary. Also, it is essential for moving people around. Having personal vehicles sitting idle, worth $5K to easily $70K, for most of the day is a massive waste of resources, income, and more. Elon's imaginary robotaxis will not fix it. Everyone doesn't need to live in cities but everyone needs to start paying for what they consume instead of taking (from cities) from others (the future generations). We would need several Earth's if everyone lived like Americans.

psunavy03 3y ago
> We would need several Earth's if everyone lived like Americans. People keep saying this, yet technology keeps advancing, and the poorest people today live like the kings of centuries ago. Henry VIII didn't have an HDTV or a smartphone.