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Google Domains is not being shut down - it's being sold to Squarespace. I would assume Cloud Domains either went with that package, or is being removed as part

by Alupis 3y ago

Google Domains is not being shut down - it's being sold to Squarespace. I would assume Cloud Domains either went with that package, or is being removed as part of the deal. Selling to another company != shut down in my book. Although I'm already in the process of moving domains to another registrar...

zinekeller 3y ago
Google, and all other domain registrars, are obliged by ICANN to allow domain migrations in case that the original registrar is shutting down. Getting money from Squarespace is just icing on the cake. You're sounding that this is a decision that Google is doing voluntarily, but it's literally not an option here (for once). Also if they're still keeping the original Google system then it's believable that they are indeed just selling Google Domains, but the fact that all domains must be migrated into Squarespace's system tells a different story.
- Alupis 3y ago
  What point are you trying to make? Because it has nothing to do with my comment as far as I can tell.
  - zinekeller 3y ago
    They are forced to sell it by their contracts with ICANN - this is not a decision that they have done voluntarily. If they can legally shut down Domains they would have done it. Sure, in any other contexts, selling Stadia customers to Microsoft or Nvidia (for example) would be a voluntary decision, however they are barred from just shutting down this one. They can even shut down Gmail or YouTube with no legal repercussions (sure their reputation will suffer but legally it's in the clear), but Domains is in a different legal standing.
    - Alupis 3y ago
      They sold it for a reported $180 Million[1] While chump change to the likes of Google, it demonstrates Squarespace views this business as highly profitable. Migrating an acquired business into your systems makes a lot of sense. Unless you have some evidence it would have been just simply shut down otherwise, I think you're inferring things that do not exist. Few if any of the other "shut down by google" operations could have sold for anywhere near this amount, as they almost universally lost money and/or were niche. [1] https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/18/google_domains_shutting_down/#:~:text=Deal%20involving%20millions%20of%20domain%20names%20reportedly%20hits%20%24180%20million&text=Google%20has%20sold%20off%20Google,be%20looked%20after%20by%20Squarespace https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/18/google_domains_shutti....
      - zinekeller 3y ago
        And they're also shutt- I mean deprecated their enterprise version? (https://cloud.google.com/domains/docs/deprecations/feature-deprecations https://cloud.google.com/domains/docs/deprecations/feature-d...) That doesn't sound like "oh, we're selling this because it's valuable money" but more of "we don't have the energy to maintain this".
mixermachine 3y ago
Isn't the goal to offer a good experience and a one platform rules it all approach? A massive downgrade for the GCP platform. If the onion released an article that states "Google sells it's domain business, who needs domains in 2023 anyway" this would be a great joke.
QuinnyPig 3y ago
So when they get bored and sell their relational databases off to Oracle, what then?
clhodapp 3y ago
I don't see the point of making this distinction. First, selling it to another company is just shutting it down but doing you the courtesy of migrating the data to another vendor. It still results in all of the management UIs, integrations, and APIs that you rely on going offline. It just avoids creating an immediate outage (but it will create one eventually, unless you start interacting with this other vendor). Second, the point has repeatedly been made that GCP is fundamentally different from Google's other offerings and essentially immune from being shut down (even in the responses to this article). That may be true for GCP as a whole, but this proves that it's not true of the individual sub-components of GCP, even ones that seem extremely core. I actually agree with the article that GCP is just good in ways that competitors aren't but... Running on their platform does continue to be a bit nerve-wracking.

by Alupis 3y ago

zinekeller 3y ago

Google, and all other domain registrars, are obliged by ICANN to allow domain migrations in case that the original registrar is shutting down. Getting money from Squarespace is just icing on the cake. You're sounding that this is a decision that Google is doing voluntarily, but it's literally not an option here (for once). Also if they're still keeping the original Google system then it's believable that they are indeed just selling Google Domains, but the fact that all domains must be migrated into Squarespace's system tells a different story.

Alupis 3y ago
What point are you trying to make? Because it has nothing to do with my comment as far as I can tell.
- zinekeller 3y ago
  They are forced to sell it by their contracts with ICANN - this is not a decision that they have done voluntarily. If they can legally shut down Domains they would have done it. Sure, in any other contexts, selling Stadia customers to Microsoft or Nvidia (for example) would be a voluntary decision, however they are barred from just shutting down this one. They can even shut down Gmail or YouTube with no legal repercussions (sure their reputation will suffer but legally it's in the clear), but Domains is in a different legal standing.
  - Alupis 3y ago
    They sold it for a reported $180 Million[1] While chump change to the likes of Google, it demonstrates Squarespace views this business as highly profitable. Migrating an acquired business into your systems makes a lot of sense. Unless you have some evidence it would have been just simply shut down otherwise, I think you're inferring things that do not exist. Few if any of the other "shut down by google" operations could have sold for anywhere near this amount, as they almost universally lost money and/or were niche. [1] https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/18/google_domains_shutting_down/#:~:text=Deal%20involving%20millions%20of%20domain%20names%20reportedly%20hits%20%24180%20million&text=Google%20has%20sold%20off%20Google,be%20looked%20after%20by%20Squarespace https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/18/google_domains_shutti....
    - zinekeller 3y ago
      And they're also shutt- I mean deprecated their enterprise version? (https://cloud.google.com/domains/docs/deprecations/feature-deprecations https://cloud.google.com/domains/docs/deprecations/feature-d...) That doesn't sound like "oh, we're selling this because it's valuable money" but more of "we don't have the energy to maintain this".

mixermachine 3y ago

Isn't the goal to offer a good experience and a one platform rules it all approach? A massive downgrade for the GCP platform. If the onion released an article that states "Google sells it's domain business, who needs domains in 2023 anyway" this would be a great joke.

QuinnyPig 3y ago

So when they get bored and sell their relational databases off to Oracle, what then?

clhodapp 3y ago

I don't see the point of making this distinction. First, selling it to another company is just shutting it down but doing you the courtesy of migrating the data to another vendor. It still results in all of the management UIs, integrations, and APIs that you rely on going offline. It just avoids creating an immediate outage (but it will create one eventually, unless you start interacting with this other vendor). Second, the point has repeatedly been made that GCP is fundamentally different from Google's other offerings and essentially immune from being shut down (even in the responses to this article). That may be true for GCP as a whole, but this proves that it's not true of the individual sub-components of GCP, even ones that seem extremely core. I actually agree with the article that GCP is just good in ways that competitors aren't but... Running on their platform does continue to be a bit nerve-wracking.