> I think sometimes people say "complexity" when they just mean "unfamiliar". I do mean actual complexity. With something like Hotwire/Livewire you don't need

> I think sometimes people say "complexity" when they just mean "unfamiliar". I do mean actual complexity. With something like Hotwire/Livewire you don't need APIs anymore. You also can scrap client-side fetch() code and state management. There are some features that will still need some client JS but these will be a minority of use cases (if at all).