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Perfect example of misinformation, citing Brandolini’s Law, which basically amounts to proof via hand wave, And The Firehose of Falsehood which relies on corr

Perfect example of misinformation, citing Brandolini’s Law, which basically amounts to proof via hand wave, And The Firehose of Falsehood which relies on correlation as it’s proof, is reinforced not weakened by censorship. Only propagandists and their useful idiots value censorship because it increases the lifespan of their lies.

pixl97 3y ago
>Brandolini's law, also known as the bullshit asymmetry principle, is an internet adage coined in 2013 that emphasizes the effort of debunking misinformation, in comparison to the relative ease of creating it in the first place. Or are you arguing that creating order is more easy than creating entropy? Because I'd like to see the physics behind that one.
- CodeWriter23 3y ago
  Moving the goalposts similarly weakens rather than strengthens your argument. The truth is rarely revealed via order. It comes into view via messy adversarial processes. Censorship serves only to interfere in that process.
  - pixl97 3y ago
    >The truth is rarely revealed via order. At some point I wonder where exactly you think truth comes from... The reality of how life works is closer to somewhere in between. 100,000 screaming shit flinging monkeys aren't finding the truth, they are there to maintain the status quo by out yelling everyone else. The authoritarian leader censoring everything but what is approved doesn't care about the truth either.
    - CodeWriter23 3y ago
      Again with the goalpost moving here. We're talking about people, not Monkeys. Unless you mean to express that you decide who has valuable speech based on who they are. There are numerous traps along that path. If those so-called "valuable" voices are afraid of those who you deem unworthy challenging their speech, then it is the "valuable" voices that need scrutiny. The "more speech" solution in that case is transparency.

pixl97 3y ago

>Brandolini's law, also known as the bullshit asymmetry principle, is an internet adage coined in 2013 that emphasizes the effort of debunking misinformation, in comparison to the relative ease of creating it in the first place. Or are you arguing that creating order is more easy than creating entropy? Because I'd like to see the physics behind that one.

CodeWriter23 3y ago
Moving the goalposts similarly weakens rather than strengthens your argument. The truth is rarely revealed via order. It comes into view via messy adversarial processes. Censorship serves only to interfere in that process.
- pixl97 3y ago
  >The truth is rarely revealed via order. At some point I wonder where exactly you think truth comes from... The reality of how life works is closer to somewhere in between. 100,000 screaming shit flinging monkeys aren't finding the truth, they are there to maintain the status quo by out yelling everyone else. The authoritarian leader censoring everything but what is approved doesn't care about the truth either.
  - CodeWriter23 3y ago
    Again with the goalpost moving here. We're talking about people, not Monkeys. Unless you mean to express that you decide who has valuable speech based on who they are. There are numerous traps along that path. If those so-called "valuable" voices are afraid of those who you deem unworthy challenging their speech, then it is the "valuable" voices that need scrutiny. The "more speech" solution in that case is transparency.