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What do you mean “develop inside it”? Here’s a link on doing it with python https://www.jetbrains.com/help/pycharm/using-docker-as-a-remote-interpreter.html#c

What do you mean “develop inside it”? Here’s a link on doing it with python https://www.jetbrains.com/help/pycharm/using-docker-as-a-remote-interpreter.html#config-docker https://www.jetbrains.com/help/pycharm/using-docker-as-a-rem...

probably_wrong 3y ago
Note that this feature is only available in the Professional (that is, paid) version. And since VS Code can do it for free, it has the upper hand in money-tight environments.
- andrewstuart 3y ago
  If you can't afford to pay for an IDE then your employer should get out of software development. That's a hard fact. Any organisation that can pay a salary or a contract rate, pay for a computer for the person to work on, pay for the hosting of their service, well they can also afford to pay for the tools that the developers need to do their job. And if they really can't, as I say, they should stop doing development because they are deeply unserious.
  - expertentipp 3y ago
    > If you can't afford to pay for an IDE then your employer should get out of software development. That's my most workplaces. After cut-throat technical recruitment process with complexity and data structures smartasses, I thought they must be great workplaces with the best tools. Then on the first day in the office "IDE?! no we have no budget for it, why don't you write code in the new message window of outlook?"
  - AlchemistCamp 3y ago
    Developers clearly don't need Jetbrains in order to work. Millions and millions work every day without it.
    - skydhash 3y ago
      Yes but they’re so nice to use. It’s the integrated part that matters. The collection of tools just play well together.
hu3 3y ago
That's just the python interpreter inside Docker being called from outside Docker. That's basically a configuration to call: docker exec -i container_name python3 myfile.py What VSCode does is much more powerful. It's as if you opened VSCode from inside the container. It works because VSCode installs a server inside the container so the world is now your container and you get full isolation, precise tooling and other goodies. In my case the development Docker file has all dependencies devs need to work on the project. No need to fight with versions of npm, node, Python, Java, Go, nginx, Caddy, yada yada. Everything is configured in the Docker file. Everyone on the team gets a copy of the exact same environment. We could even attach to a remote container running somewhere in "the cloud" if we wanted to.
- lopatin 3y ago
  I believe that IntelliJ can do this for remote servers. It installs an IntelliJ agent on the server and it’s like remote development, your real IDE becomes a lightweight client of it.
  - andrewstuart 3y ago
    This? https://www.jetbrains.com/help/idea/remote-development-a.html https://www.jetbrains.com/help/idea/remote-development-a.htm... JetBrains Gateway is a lightweight launcher that connects a remote server with your local machine, downloads necessary components on the backend, and opens your project in JetBrains Client.
    - hu3 3y ago
      That requires SSH daemon running inside Docker. Plus it looks broken from the comments on https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-226455 https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-226455 > Peter commented 21 Feb 2023 11:23 > Remote development is my biggest JB disappointment. After years of development, it still doesn't work -- is too slow, buggy, crashes all the time, with most features just missing. Seems like they can't do it. Last comment is from 16 May when they just closed the issue (and other related issues) with the same message. In VSCode these things just work. And it needs no SSH to attach to a Docker container.

probably_wrong 3y ago

Note that this feature is only available in the Professional (that is, paid) version. And since VS Code can do it for free, it has the upper hand in money-tight environments.

andrewstuart 3y ago
If you can't afford to pay for an IDE then your employer should get out of software development. That's a hard fact. Any organisation that can pay a salary or a contract rate, pay for a computer for the person to work on, pay for the hosting of their service, well they can also afford to pay for the tools that the developers need to do their job. And if they really can't, as I say, they should stop doing development because they are deeply unserious.
- expertentipp 3y ago
  > If you can't afford to pay for an IDE then your employer should get out of software development. That's my most workplaces. After cut-throat technical recruitment process with complexity and data structures smartasses, I thought they must be great workplaces with the best tools. Then on the first day in the office "IDE?! no we have no budget for it, why don't you write code in the new message window of outlook?"
- AlchemistCamp 3y ago
  Developers clearly don't need Jetbrains in order to work. Millions and millions work every day without it.
  - skydhash 3y ago
    Yes but they’re so nice to use. It’s the integrated part that matters. The collection of tools just play well together.

hu3 3y ago

That's just the python interpreter inside Docker being called from outside Docker. That's basically a configuration to call: docker exec -i container_name python3 myfile.py What VSCode does is much more powerful. It's as if you opened VSCode from inside the container. It works because VSCode installs a server inside the container so the world is now your container and you get full isolation, precise tooling and other goodies. In my case the development Docker file has all dependencies devs need to work on the project. No need to fight with versions of npm, node, Python, Java, Go, nginx, Caddy, yada yada. Everything is configured in the Docker file. Everyone on the team gets a copy of the exact same environment. We could even attach to a remote container running somewhere in "the cloud" if we wanted to.

lopatin 3y ago
I believe that IntelliJ can do this for remote servers. It installs an IntelliJ agent on the server and it’s like remote development, your real IDE becomes a lightweight client of it.
- andrewstuart 3y ago
  This? https://www.jetbrains.com/help/idea/remote-development-a.html https://www.jetbrains.com/help/idea/remote-development-a.htm... JetBrains Gateway is a lightweight launcher that connects a remote server with your local machine, downloads necessary components on the backend, and opens your project in JetBrains Client.
  - hu3 3y ago
    That requires SSH daemon running inside Docker. Plus it looks broken from the comments on https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-226455 https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-226455 > Peter commented 21 Feb 2023 11:23 > Remote development is my biggest JB disappointment. After years of development, it still doesn't work -- is too slow, buggy, crashes all the time, with most features just missing. Seems like they can't do it. Last comment is from 16 May when they just closed the issue (and other related issues) with the same message. In VSCode these things just work. And it needs no SSH to attach to a Docker container.