then you can't say they are a long way off. I have and it's working. Right now. In a city with crazy traffic. And construction. And techno pessimists putting c

then you can't say they are a long way off. I have and it's working. Right now. In a city with crazy traffic. And construction. And techno pessimists putting cones over their lidars. In the rain. 24/7. It's fucking incredible.