> Finally, the last thing I would suggest is that writing an entire app in vanilla web components is kind of crazy talk in my opinion. For 5kb you can have a su

> Finally, the last thing I would suggest is that writing an entire app in vanilla web components is kind of crazy talk in my opinion. For 5kb you can have a super nice developer experience using Lit (https://lit.dev https://lit.dev) I 100% agree with this. For me it was more of a question of "can I do it", and that was something I wanted to find out. You notice that I ended up having to recreate a significant chunk of lit-like functionality on my own via a base class: https://github.com/jjcm/nonio-frontend/blob/master/components/soci-component.js https://github.com/jjcm/nonio-frontend/blob/master/component... I would very much recommend not going full vanilla. Using a library like lit will definitely help making things easier/more polished, and will integrate better with existing tooling.