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I think the issues are political. Musk hasnt done himself any favors, it seems every person has a very strong opinion of him and therefore spacex, Tesla, and X.

I think the issues are political. Musk hasnt done himself any favors, it seems every person has a very strong opinion of him and therefore spacex, Tesla, and X. I’m sure there’s lots of “whoopsies” going on in the agencies looking at the launch license where approvals, reviews, or even emails stay in the todo pile for weeks. One dedicated person could double the time spent at any stage in the process.

bluGill 3y ago
This is why most CEOs and politicians never talk publicly except what the PR team and lawyers have carefully reviewed. When they give speeches they are written well in advance and carefully practiced. Once in a while a CEO or politician does and people at first like the candidness, but eventually (see Musk, Trump) they say something that someone doesn't like. Everyone has and thinks such thoughts that make us look really bad, but most of us get away with it because nobody is listening.
- _ea1k 3y ago
  > This is why most CEOs and politicians never talk publicly except what the PR team and lawyers have carefully reviewed. TBH, I find this sad. I remember when Marcus Lemonis got into trouble for a fairly benign off-hand remark. It really drove home the point how fickle people could be at the slightest perceived slight. Then add the media that loves to fan the flames and it ends up being a really unfortunate system. We need to find a way to get people back to honest and open dialogue.
  - mrguyorama 3y ago
    >We need to find a way to get people back to honest and open dialogue. When have humans EVER had honest and open dialogue about anything?
    - bluGill 3y ago
      Every once in a while enough people die that the remaining living choose not to kill each other. We call it being a liberal, and it doesn't happen very often (most people confuse liberal with other political stances that at one time liberals also commonly held, but these days most people we call liberal are not)
    - mkoubaa 3y ago
      I feel sorry for you if you think the answer is never
      - isk517 3y ago
        Plenty of people have had open and honest dialog, but those people rarely if ever make it into history books.
- zpeti 3y ago
  Well, many tech company owners and CEOs have been clearly supporting and voting democrat, yet no one ever thinks that’s a major issue, including republicans who use their companies. Facebook openly helped Obama with data, Schmidt was a massive Hillary supporter, Bezos is completely left wing, etc etc. Seems like the intolerance of the left goes a lot further and is a lot more effective. Amazing that the one time a tech billionaire is vocal about their views which lean right (sorry, second after thiel), suddenly everyone wants politics out of boardrooms?
  - dralley 3y ago
    Why is this restricted to "tech" billionaires? Republicans aren't lacking in billionaire supporters from other industries.
  - Ographer 3y ago
    Do Republicans start a lot of tech companies? There is no shortage of Republican billionaires having their way with American politics for personal gain and anyone who is paying attention is repulsed by it. Look at Harold Hamm of Continental Resources oil company. He was asked to be Trump's energy secretary but he didn't want to leave the company he started which made him worth $25 billion. Instead he has a superpac that funds Republican candidates and causes, and he flies his jet to Washington to schmooze politicians into supporting the oil industry through policy making. He busses employees to the capital and hands them signs to protest bills which would raise taxes on the oil industry. He emailed employees encouraging them to vote against medical marijuana because it's corrupting society. I wanted politics out of boardrooms a long time ago!

bluGill 3y ago

This is why most CEOs and politicians never talk publicly except what the PR team and lawyers have carefully reviewed. When they give speeches they are written well in advance and carefully practiced. Once in a while a CEO or politician does and people at first like the candidness, but eventually (see Musk, Trump) they say something that someone doesn't like. Everyone has and thinks such thoughts that make us look really bad, but most of us get away with it because nobody is listening.

_ea1k 3y ago
> This is why most CEOs and politicians never talk publicly except what the PR team and lawyers have carefully reviewed. TBH, I find this sad. I remember when Marcus Lemonis got into trouble for a fairly benign off-hand remark. It really drove home the point how fickle people could be at the slightest perceived slight. Then add the media that loves to fan the flames and it ends up being a really unfortunate system. We need to find a way to get people back to honest and open dialogue.
- mrguyorama 3y ago
  >We need to find a way to get people back to honest and open dialogue. When have humans EVER had honest and open dialogue about anything?
  - bluGill 3y ago
    Every once in a while enough people die that the remaining living choose not to kill each other. We call it being a liberal, and it doesn't happen very often (most people confuse liberal with other political stances that at one time liberals also commonly held, but these days most people we call liberal are not)
  - mkoubaa 3y ago
    I feel sorry for you if you think the answer is never
    - isk517 3y ago
      Plenty of people have had open and honest dialog, but those people rarely if ever make it into history books.
zpeti 3y ago
Well, many tech company owners and CEOs have been clearly supporting and voting democrat, yet no one ever thinks that’s a major issue, including republicans who use their companies. Facebook openly helped Obama with data, Schmidt was a massive Hillary supporter, Bezos is completely left wing, etc etc. Seems like the intolerance of the left goes a lot further and is a lot more effective. Amazing that the one time a tech billionaire is vocal about their views which lean right (sorry, second after thiel), suddenly everyone wants politics out of boardrooms?
- dralley 3y ago
  Why is this restricted to "tech" billionaires? Republicans aren't lacking in billionaire supporters from other industries.
- Ographer 3y ago
  Do Republicans start a lot of tech companies? There is no shortage of Republican billionaires having their way with American politics for personal gain and anyone who is paying attention is repulsed by it. Look at Harold Hamm of Continental Resources oil company. He was asked to be Trump's energy secretary but he didn't want to leave the company he started which made him worth $25 billion. Instead he has a superpac that funds Republican candidates and causes, and he flies his jet to Washington to schmooze politicians into supporting the oil industry through policy making. He busses employees to the capital and hands them signs to protest bills which would raise taxes on the oil industry. He emailed employees encouraging them to vote against medical marijuana because it's corrupting society. I wanted politics out of boardrooms a long time ago!