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This seems obvious. If a person is asked to do something, and they do as requested, they will be asked to do more things.

lacrimacida 3y ago
While others do less or nothing but have all the time in the world to dress their nothing into fabulous powerpoints and buzzwords.
- michaelteter 3y ago
  Those are the managers (and some execs) pushing for return-to-office. They need to be seen as looking busy and important by many others to justify their position/salary.
francisofascii 3y ago
Sure, but what's not obvious is, doing more does not automatically translate to more reward.
- michaelteter 3y ago
  Very true. And if you were raised in a family that believed in hard, honest work (with the implication that there would be a reward someday), it can take many, many years to discover that one's own personal satisfaction is the only real reward from dedication and toil on behalf of a company.
- bluefirebrand 3y ago
  It usually translates into some more reward, but it's a bad math problem. If you crunch 60 hour weeks for two months to get a release out and you get rewarded with a pizza party and a starbucks gift card, you are being exploited. Your salary is being devalued by the extra time you are putting in and your reward is insultingly cheap. That's also the norm. Anecdote time: My wife was once talking with an old boss, who was trying to find out what kinds of things people wanted as rewards for good work. He was thinking about things like "you won employee of the month so you get a trophy and your photo on the wall" Now, I wasn't in the room, but she insists that he was stunned when she just said she wanted more money or more time off. Like he couldn't understand why someone would prefer $50 in cash over a $50 desk trophy or plaque or something. Keep in mind he's probably making $250k a year and she was making $60k. It's entirely possible he had never once in his whole career made "as little" as 60k per year (adjusted for inflation)
buffet_overflow 3y ago
“The only reward for good work is more work”
- toomuchtodo 3y ago
  Which is how many arrive at “fuck you, pay me.” The beatings will continue until failure.
maxisaurus 3y ago
Been that person for a long time at work and I had a hard time learn how to say no. I started pushing myself for "1 no / week" (with explanations ofc), started to get used to it and saw cool improvements afterward (most people requests are not that prio).

lacrimacida 3y ago

While others do less or nothing but have all the time in the world to dress their nothing into fabulous powerpoints and buzzwords.

michaelteter 3y ago
Those are the managers (and some execs) pushing for return-to-office. They need to be seen as looking busy and important by many others to justify their position/salary.

francisofascii 3y ago

Sure, but what's not obvious is, doing more does not automatically translate to more reward.

michaelteter 3y ago
Very true. And if you were raised in a family that believed in hard, honest work (with the implication that there would be a reward someday), it can take many, many years to discover that one's own personal satisfaction is the only real reward from dedication and toil on behalf of a company.
bluefirebrand 3y ago
It usually translates into some more reward, but it's a bad math problem. If you crunch 60 hour weeks for two months to get a release out and you get rewarded with a pizza party and a starbucks gift card, you are being exploited. Your salary is being devalued by the extra time you are putting in and your reward is insultingly cheap. That's also the norm. Anecdote time: My wife was once talking with an old boss, who was trying to find out what kinds of things people wanted as rewards for good work. He was thinking about things like "you won employee of the month so you get a trophy and your photo on the wall" Now, I wasn't in the room, but she insists that he was stunned when she just said she wanted more money or more time off. Like he couldn't understand why someone would prefer $50 in cash over a $50 desk trophy or plaque or something. Keep in mind he's probably making $250k a year and she was making $60k. It's entirely possible he had never once in his whole career made "as little" as 60k per year (adjusted for inflation)

buffet_overflow 3y ago

“The only reward for good work is more work”

toomuchtodo 3y ago
Which is how many arrive at “fuck you, pay me.” The beatings will continue until failure.

maxisaurus 3y ago

Been that person for a long time at work and I had a hard time learn how to say no. I started pushing myself for "1 no / week" (with explanations ofc), started to get used to it and saw cool improvements afterward (most people requests are not that prio).