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The New York Times Debate over Its Gaza Hospital Bombing Coverage
- datameta 3y agoBased on a single photo of the parking lot from above, and a basic understanding of air dropped JDAMs vs ground launched makeshift rockets it seemed obvious to me from the scorch marks and lack of crater that an israeli bomb was not involved. Do they not have military advisors for stories that involve conflict? Simply in the interest of fairness and accuracy in journalism.
- jjgreen 3y agoThey have a more-detailed report in today's issue: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/24/world/middleeast/gaza-hospital-israel-hamas-video.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/24/world/middleeast/gaza-hos...
- verdverm 3y agoNot saying it is the case, but an anti-air missile from Israel is an alternative source I have seen only rarely considered Also, there is an image that shows a small crater, not JDAM sized
- datameta 3y agoHmm that is a good explanation - AA munitions are low ordnance typically, so their effect against concrete would be low. Yeah I really don't know what or who caused it, or on purpose or not - but it wasn't a 1000lb or 500lb bomb.
- verdverm 3y agoConsidering Hamas rockets have high failure rates (1/5 of thousands iirc), that is still the most plausible explanation. An AA missile would have to be fired very early and go very astray to cause this incident.
- master_crab 3y agoIt’s not a bomb for sure. But based on all the available evidence you can’t ignore the possibility of an artillery shell. Best guess right now is: I don’t know. Could be a failed rocket from Palestinian groups or an Israeli artillery shell.
- tomohawk 3y agoThe NYT relied purely on reports from Hamas, amplifying them without any corroborating evidence. You only do that when you really trust the source. Who trusts a brutal dictatorship that regularly conducts terrorist attacks, and recently committed atrocities, which they proudly documented themselves, killing 1400 people and wounding thousands of others.