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But when will Windows Arm properly finished with all pro applications compiled in arm (for example, All Adobe apps) ?

by ttoinou 3y ago

snvzz 3y ago
Ask the people behind those apps.
- jraph 3y ago
  OTOH Microsoft partly did this to themselves by encouraging native proprietary software. That's where they pushed their ecosystem.
  - snvzz 3y ago
    Yes, native is their thing, Windows isn't a WASM platform (or the like). We managed to move from x86 to amd64. We'll do the same with RISC-V. Can't say about ARM, I personally find it just a distraction that'll pass.
    - kalleboo 3y ago
      Hasn't Microsoft long been pushing for everything new to be written in .NET, which is a virtual machine like Java?
xgdgsc 3y ago
https://is-windows-on-arm-ready.vercel.app/ https://is-windows-on-arm-ready.vercel.app/ has a list. As the chip performance is great, running x86 apps could have adequate performance for many people. I' m using a 8cx gen3 2in1 laptop as a vscode remote client. It can run Android apps and linux subsystem and Windows apps altogether. Even the CPU is worse than Snapdragon X by a lot, it can connect 3 displays altogether (2K+2K+4K) and have greate battery life. The only things drawing windows on arm experince back is Modern Standby that makes work session recovery from suspend not as stable as my M2 Max macbook pro. And x86 drivers not supported by the transpiling layer.
musicale 3y ago
This is a valid point. Windows on ARM currently lacks the native app ecosystem that macOS has, and won't be "better than Mac" until the apps catch up. Because Apple has a Mac monopoly and customer lock-in, it was able to drag its developers and users into the bold new ARM era, solving both the supply and demand side. Of course shipping a killer product (M1 Macs) at just the right time certainly helped. (And iOS/iPadOS devs were already using ARM with Apple's APIs, languages and tools, so now they have an even more streamlined path to the Mac side.) Kind of weird that Apple, and not Microsoft, succeeded in leveraging their desktop OS and APIs into the mobile space.

But when will Windows Arm properly finished with all pro applications compiled in arm (for example, All Adobe apps) ?

snvzz 3y ago

Ask the people behind those apps.

jraph 3y ago
OTOH Microsoft partly did this to themselves by encouraging native proprietary software. That's where they pushed their ecosystem.
- snvzz 3y ago
  Yes, native is their thing, Windows isn't a WASM platform (or the like). We managed to move from x86 to amd64. We'll do the same with RISC-V. Can't say about ARM, I personally find it just a distraction that'll pass.
  - kalleboo 3y ago
    Hasn't Microsoft long been pushing for everything new to be written in .NET, which is a virtual machine like Java?

xgdgsc 3y ago

https://is-windows-on-arm-ready.vercel.app/ https://is-windows-on-arm-ready.vercel.app/ has a list. As the chip performance is great, running x86 apps could have adequate performance for many people. I' m using a 8cx gen3 2in1 laptop as a vscode remote client. It can run Android apps and linux subsystem and Windows apps altogether. Even the CPU is worse than Snapdragon X by a lot, it can connect 3 displays altogether (2K+2K+4K) and have greate battery life. The only things drawing windows on arm experince back is Modern Standby that makes work session recovery from suspend not as stable as my M2 Max macbook pro. And x86 drivers not supported by the transpiling layer.

musicale 3y ago

This is a valid point. Windows on ARM currently lacks the native app ecosystem that macOS has, and won't be "better than Mac" until the apps catch up. Because Apple has a Mac monopoly and customer lock-in, it was able to drag its developers and users into the bold new ARM era, solving both the supply and demand side. Of course shipping a killer product (M1 Macs) at just the right time certainly helped. (And iOS/iPadOS devs were already using ARM with Apple's APIs, languages and tools, so now they have an even more streamlined path to the Mac side.) Kind of weird that Apple, and not Microsoft, succeeded in leveraging their desktop OS and APIs into the mobile space.