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Funfact: San Franscisco has a public transport system in the area where the driverless cars are operating.

by PinguTS 3y ago

spike021 3y ago
It took how many years just to add one new line?
- teaearlgraycold 3y ago
  How many years to implement self driving cars? But really I think they’re the future of the city.
  - robertlagrant 3y ago
    That's because it's a hard problem, not because of local government.
    - withinboredom 3y ago
      I think the point of the comment was: is this even a problem that needs to be solved because we already have a perfectly good solution, it's just that nobody (for REASONS) wants to implement the solution. So, some company has to solve a "hard problem." A perfect "this is why we can't have nice things."
      - edgyquant 3y ago
        Not everyone agrees that public transport and rebuilding cities around them is a good idea. That’s what you people who are obsessed with trains and busses don’t get. Self driving cars are still cars, and cars come with a freedom public transportation can’t match. It’s more likely that self driving cars become public transportation than we enact the fantasy that the US changes it’s entire cultural mindset to hate individual choice. I for one don’t want to ride a bus, every time I’ve been on one there’s been some drugged out maniac sketching everyone out. They’re also usually gross like public bathrooms and building more, forcing everyone to use them, isn’t going away to change that.
        withinboredom 3y ago
        > every time I’ve been on one there’s been some drugged out maniac sketching everyone out. I'd never been on a bus until I moved out of the US, and I've never run into that problem. > you people who are obsessed with trains and busses I'm not obsessed, I grew up in the US. I drove a car every day since I was 16.5 years old, well into my 30s. I also drove fuel trucks, tractors, boats, and so much more during my life in the US. It wasn't until I moved out of the US that I saw a different way of living. Does it have issues? Yep. Does it mean I can live without a car payment, insurance, and maintenance costs? Hell yeah, and that is a lot of money. Do I miss having a car? Yes! I actually do. However, when I need one, I can usually rent an electric BMW one for a few hours for ~50 USD an hour, or ~100 for a day. But realistically, on average, I only need a car for a day, every few months.
- JimDabell 3y ago
  I believe you are talking about Van Ness BRT. A couple of decades and hundreds of millions of dollars to build a two mile bus lane. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Ness_Bus_Rapid_Transit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Ness_Bus_Rapid_Transit
  - spike021 3y ago
    That also applies. But I was thinking of the Chinatown line that connects with Fourth and King.
  - HPsquared 3y ago
    LOL. It's like that cartoon with the swing. "I just wanted someone to paint a line on the road" https://fisher.osu.edu/blogs/gradlife/2011/11/16/a-simple-swing https://fisher.osu.edu/blogs/gradlife/2011/11/16/a-simple-sw...

Funfact: San Franscisco has a public transport system in the area where the driverless cars are operating.

spike021 3y ago

It took how many years just to add one new line?

teaearlgraycold 3y ago
How many years to implement self driving cars? But really I think they’re the future of the city.
- robertlagrant 3y ago
  That's because it's a hard problem, not because of local government.
  - withinboredom 3y ago
    I think the point of the comment was: is this even a problem that needs to be solved because we already have a perfectly good solution, it's just that nobody (for REASONS) wants to implement the solution. So, some company has to solve a "hard problem." A perfect "this is why we can't have nice things."
    - edgyquant 3y ago
      Not everyone agrees that public transport and rebuilding cities around them is a good idea. That’s what you people who are obsessed with trains and busses don’t get. Self driving cars are still cars, and cars come with a freedom public transportation can’t match. It’s more likely that self driving cars become public transportation than we enact the fantasy that the US changes it’s entire cultural mindset to hate individual choice. I for one don’t want to ride a bus, every time I’ve been on one there’s been some drugged out maniac sketching everyone out. They’re also usually gross like public bathrooms and building more, forcing everyone to use them, isn’t going away to change that.
      - withinboredom 3y ago
        > every time I’ve been on one there’s been some drugged out maniac sketching everyone out. I'd never been on a bus until I moved out of the US, and I've never run into that problem. > you people who are obsessed with trains and busses I'm not obsessed, I grew up in the US. I drove a car every day since I was 16.5 years old, well into my 30s. I also drove fuel trucks, tractors, boats, and so much more during my life in the US. It wasn't until I moved out of the US that I saw a different way of living. Does it have issues? Yep. Does it mean I can live without a car payment, insurance, and maintenance costs? Hell yeah, and that is a lot of money. Do I miss having a car? Yes! I actually do. However, when I need one, I can usually rent an electric BMW one for a few hours for ~50 USD an hour, or ~100 for a day. But realistically, on average, I only need a car for a day, every few months.
JimDabell 3y ago
I believe you are talking about Van Ness BRT. A couple of decades and hundreds of millions of dollars to build a two mile bus lane. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Ness_Bus_Rapid_Transit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Ness_Bus_Rapid_Transit
- spike021 3y ago
  That also applies. But I was thinking of the Chinatown line that connects with Fourth and King.
- HPsquared 3y ago
  LOL. It's like that cartoon with the swing. "I just wanted someone to paint a line on the road" https://fisher.osu.edu/blogs/gradlife/2011/11/16/a-simple-swing https://fisher.osu.edu/blogs/gradlife/2011/11/16/a-simple-sw...