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1) Since blocking social media for one's children is trivial, does it mean all the parents affected are guilty of neglect? Is there a reverse class action lawsu

by sershe 3y ago

1) Since blocking social media for one's children is trivial, does it mean all the parents affected are guilty of neglect? Is there a reverse class action lawsuit? Oh wait, that's bad for election prospects, better go after evil big businesses. 2) There really needs to be a rule for frivolous shakedown lawsuits of the kind EU and now apparently US states practice, where monetary damages are paid either way - if the fake harms and violations pan out, to the state; if they don't pan our, by the states to the company with the same order of magnitude fine.

greycol 3y ago
As to 1) The prisoners dillema is a pretty basic example of how the best possible co-ordinated action is not necesarily the best possible individual action. i.e. other kids not on social media/ your kid not on social media Δ0 happiness other kids not on social media/ your kid on social media Δ-3 happiness other kids on social media/ your kid on social media Δ-10 happiness other kids on social media/ your kid not not social media Δ-50 happiness Maybe some form of co-ordination might be in the parents best interest... maybe some form of representative could do something about it if it's in the kids best interest?
- cheriot 3y ago
  Judge: Why do you let your kids use social media? Parent: All the other kids are on it. ... PS There's some in between, https://support.google.com/families/answer/7103340 https://support.google.com/families/answer/7103340
  - greycol 3y ago
    To reply just as flippantly: We could take the same aproach to alcohol and gambling, drop all age restrictions and put all the responsibility on the parents, then businesses will truly be able to run efficiently. Of course good parents have to be involved in raising there kids well but that doesn't mean we shouldn't subsidide education or restrict companies from sending kids down coal mines(even if they really want the money). Mostly because good parents can fail and bad parents exist and if society isn't going to aim for turning kids into good adults then it'll just get worse generation on generation.
    - cheriot 3y ago
      The approach to alcohol isn't all that different: It's entirely legal for a parent serve alcohol to their kid. If it were possible for each store to determine the parent's wish's, we'd probably have that. Parents control the phone and the phone plan. Parental controls that exist today can set how long an app can be open per day. What's the outcome from suing Meta that's more effective? I agree that policy should protect kids and to do that it needs to be effective, not just cathartic.

by sershe 3y ago

greycol 3y ago

As to 1) The prisoners dillema is a pretty basic example of how the best possible co-ordinated action is not necesarily the best possible individual action. i.e. other kids not on social media/ your kid not on social media Δ0 happiness other kids not on social media/ your kid on social media Δ-3 happiness other kids on social media/ your kid on social media Δ-10 happiness other kids on social media/ your kid not not social media Δ-50 happiness Maybe some form of co-ordination might be in the parents best interest... maybe some form of representative could do something about it if it's in the kids best interest?

cheriot 3y ago
Judge: Why do you let your kids use social media? Parent: All the other kids are on it. ... PS There's some in between, https://support.google.com/families/answer/7103340 https://support.google.com/families/answer/7103340
- greycol 3y ago
  To reply just as flippantly: We could take the same aproach to alcohol and gambling, drop all age restrictions and put all the responsibility on the parents, then businesses will truly be able to run efficiently. Of course good parents have to be involved in raising there kids well but that doesn't mean we shouldn't subsidide education or restrict companies from sending kids down coal mines(even if they really want the money). Mostly because good parents can fail and bad parents exist and if society isn't going to aim for turning kids into good adults then it'll just get worse generation on generation.
  - cheriot 3y ago
    The approach to alcohol isn't all that different: It's entirely legal for a parent serve alcohol to their kid. If it were possible for each store to determine the parent's wish's, we'd probably have that. Parents control the phone and the phone plan. Parental controls that exist today can set how long an app can be open per day. What's the outcome from suing Meta that's more effective? I agree that policy should protect kids and to do that it needs to be effective, not just cathartic.