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I wish I wasn't tied to Gmail because it means I can't really use any other clients if I want instant notifications. And their official app has ads that look li

by hbn 3y ago

I wish I wasn't tied to Gmail because it means I can't really use any other clients if I want instant notifications. And their official app has ads that look like emails. I assume they must do that on purpose, right? Make their IMAP implementation bad so people will use their clients with ads? I'd kinda hope regulators would step in on something like that for a case like Gmail where they're practically the default email provider for most people.

jwells89 3y ago
It might not have been on purpose originally but it's certainly convenient and in their best interest to leave their IMAP support in that state.
bananapub 3y ago
> I wish I wasn't tied to Gmail because it means I can't really use any other clients if I want instant notifications. what? it's supported IMAP IDLE for longer than some of the posters in HN have been alive. > I'd kinda hope regulators would step in on something like that for a case like Gmail where they're practically the default email provider for most people. ... you chose to use some random company's domain for your email address, that's been an obvious problem for thirty years now. there's jillions of things to criticise google about, this is absolutely not one of them.
- hbn 3y ago
  Look - I don't know much about email standards but I know if I try to use Gmail on the Apple Mail client it doesn't give me notifications. Everyone I've talked to has the same issue, they get a dumping of notifications once per week with every email they got in the past 7 days. No solutions to be found online either, if you have one I'd be more than happy to hear it. > ... you chose to use some random company's domain for your email address, that's been an obvious problem for thirty years now. I was 13 when I made the account. I obviously wouldn't have tied so many things to it if I knew what I know now back then. I'll try to be born earlier next time, and then maybe I can buy a house before 2008 and some 90s Apple stocks while I'm at it.
  - bananapub 3y ago
    I'm not having a dig at you for being young, I'm explaining it's not a Gmail problem. I had to move on from my lycos.com email address too but that later you do it the harder it is.
  - bombcar 3y ago
    I don't know what I'm doing differently, but I have my domain's email hosted on Google Apps and it notifies just fine.
  - plorkyeran 3y ago
    I've never had issues getting instant notifications for gmail using apple mail, and that is an extremely common combination of email service and client.
lamontcg 3y ago
> I'd kinda hope regulators would step in on something like that for a case like Gmail where they're practically the default email provider for most people. Regulators won't ever save you. * buy a domain name on namecheap * setup a proton mail account (think you'll wind up paying some for it, but its worth it) * link your domain name to your proton mail account and setup an alias * forward your gmail to the new alias on the domain name that you control * slowly start converting all the references to your old gmail to the new account (And while nothing is perfect so protonmail/namecheap isn't perfect, any other suggestions will probably trigger people's executive dysfunction and they'll do nothing rather than focus on the fact that this is a portable solution and 2 years later if they find something they like better they can easily switch)

by hbn 3y ago

jwells89 3y ago

It might not have been on purpose originally but it's certainly convenient and in their best interest to leave their IMAP support in that state.

bananapub 3y ago

> I wish I wasn't tied to Gmail because it means I can't really use any other clients if I want instant notifications. what? it's supported IMAP IDLE for longer than some of the posters in HN have been alive. > I'd kinda hope regulators would step in on something like that for a case like Gmail where they're practically the default email provider for most people. ... you chose to use some random company's domain for your email address, that's been an obvious problem for thirty years now. there's jillions of things to criticise google about, this is absolutely not one of them.

hbn 3y ago
Look - I don't know much about email standards but I know if I try to use Gmail on the Apple Mail client it doesn't give me notifications. Everyone I've talked to has the same issue, they get a dumping of notifications once per week with every email they got in the past 7 days. No solutions to be found online either, if you have one I'd be more than happy to hear it. > ... you chose to use some random company's domain for your email address, that's been an obvious problem for thirty years now. I was 13 when I made the account. I obviously wouldn't have tied so many things to it if I knew what I know now back then. I'll try to be born earlier next time, and then maybe I can buy a house before 2008 and some 90s Apple stocks while I'm at it.
- bananapub 3y ago
  I'm not having a dig at you for being young, I'm explaining it's not a Gmail problem. I had to move on from my lycos.com email address too but that later you do it the harder it is.
- bombcar 3y ago
  I don't know what I'm doing differently, but I have my domain's email hosted on Google Apps and it notifies just fine.
- plorkyeran 3y ago
  I've never had issues getting instant notifications for gmail using apple mail, and that is an extremely common combination of email service and client.

lamontcg 3y ago

> I'd kinda hope regulators would step in on something like that for a case like Gmail where they're practically the default email provider for most people. Regulators won't ever save you. * buy a domain name on namecheap * setup a proton mail account (think you'll wind up paying some for it, but its worth it) * link your domain name to your proton mail account and setup an alias * forward your gmail to the new alias on the domain name that you control * slowly start converting all the references to your old gmail to the new account (And while nothing is perfect so protonmail/namecheap isn't perfect, any other suggestions will probably trigger people's executive dysfunction and they'll do nothing rather than focus on the fact that this is a portable solution and 2 years later if they find something they like better they can easily switch)