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Some are old enough to remember (reruns of) a TV show from six decades ago called "The Millionaire".[0] In each episode, a surprise, life-changing gift of $1M

Some are old enough to remember (reruns of) a TV show from six decades ago called "The Millionaire".[0] In each episode, a surprise, life-changing gift of $1M from an anonymous private donor was made to someone not expecting it. That would be $11M in today's dollars, so the status that goes with being a millionaire has been greatly devalued (no surprise). [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Millionaire_(TV_series) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Millionaire_(TV_series)

tcmart14 3y ago
This is why I wonder if 401Ks will just turn into a dog chasing its own tail. I think today, they still hammer that you need to have 1 million in your 401K when you retire, something being said my whole working life.
- dudul 3y ago
  I feel like we've moved on from the 1M figure. 3M seems to be the new target, at least that's what I hear the most.
  - brian-armstrong 3y ago
    And yet the contribution limits are hardly changing. And your options to contribute beyond the standard limit varies from employer to employer.
    - dudul 3y ago
      Agreed, what's the limit on an IRA lately? 6k a year?
    - BizarroLand 3y ago
      Yep. If you want to retire on a 401k alone, you have to start putting money in it as close to the day you are born as possible. If I get to have a kid I'm opening them a Roth IRA and putting all the money that I possibly can into it. $10,000 on the day they are born would be somewhere in the $250,000 - $1,000,000 range (depending on whether they average 5% or 7%, and if it were to average 10% it would be $6.47 million at age 65), assuming no further investments were made on it and that there were no management fees attached to it, and that somehow they could resist the temptation to draw down from it early to buy a house or pay student loans, cover debts, etc..
      - ctr 3y ago
        Note that IRA contributions require earned income so IRAs are effectively unavailable to kids until they're in their teens.
      - HumblyTossed 3y ago
        I don't think you can do the IRA, but yeah, this is the way to do it. Event if you put just a few hundred in per month, it'll grow to a sizeable amount in 65 years. That means if your kids never put in more than the company match, they'll still have a pretty decent amount at retirement and have more money each month for rent or house payment.
        BizarroLand 3y ago
        I will speak with a CFP/CFA before I go about willy-nilly throwing sizeable amounts of money at something. I would probably also put the account into a trust that would prevent them from drawing down until they are 55 unless they are injured or otherwise have a desperate need that is more urgent than their retirement, like their child has an expensively treatable disease or something.
    - HumblyTossed 3y ago
      Because they want us constantly working not retiring.
- HumblyTossed 3y ago
  It really all depends on how much you want to spend in retirement. But, yeah, 1 million at 4% is 40K before taxes. The next thing you have to do is decide if you want to assume SSI will be around at your retirement. But if not, can you live on 40K per year?

tcmart14 3y ago

This is why I wonder if 401Ks will just turn into a dog chasing its own tail. I think today, they still hammer that you need to have 1 million in your 401K when you retire, something being said my whole working life.

dudul 3y ago
I feel like we've moved on from the 1M figure. 3M seems to be the new target, at least that's what I hear the most.
- brian-armstrong 3y ago
  And yet the contribution limits are hardly changing. And your options to contribute beyond the standard limit varies from employer to employer.
  - dudul 3y ago
    Agreed, what's the limit on an IRA lately? 6k a year?
  - BizarroLand 3y ago
    Yep. If you want to retire on a 401k alone, you have to start putting money in it as close to the day you are born as possible. If I get to have a kid I'm opening them a Roth IRA and putting all the money that I possibly can into it. $10,000 on the day they are born would be somewhere in the $250,000 - $1,000,000 range (depending on whether they average 5% or 7%, and if it were to average 10% it would be $6.47 million at age 65), assuming no further investments were made on it and that there were no management fees attached to it, and that somehow they could resist the temptation to draw down from it early to buy a house or pay student loans, cover debts, etc..
    - ctr 3y ago
      Note that IRA contributions require earned income so IRAs are effectively unavailable to kids until they're in their teens.
    - HumblyTossed 3y ago
      I don't think you can do the IRA, but yeah, this is the way to do it. Event if you put just a few hundred in per month, it'll grow to a sizeable amount in 65 years. That means if your kids never put in more than the company match, they'll still have a pretty decent amount at retirement and have more money each month for rent or house payment.
      - BizarroLand 3y ago
        I will speak with a CFP/CFA before I go about willy-nilly throwing sizeable amounts of money at something. I would probably also put the account into a trust that would prevent them from drawing down until they are 55 unless they are injured or otherwise have a desperate need that is more urgent than their retirement, like their child has an expensively treatable disease or something.
  - HumblyTossed 3y ago
    Because they want us constantly working not retiring.
HumblyTossed 3y ago
It really all depends on how much you want to spend in retirement. But, yeah, 1 million at 4% is 40K before taxes. The next thing you have to do is decide if you want to assume SSI will be around at your retirement. But if not, can you live on 40K per year?