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How many surplus people will be killed by human drivers today, tomorrow, next year, and next decade because of this suspension I wonder? No one ever seems to co
by thereisnospork 3y ago
How many surplus people will be killed by human drivers today, tomorrow, next year, and next decade because of this suspension I wonder? No one ever seems to consider them in these decisions[0].
[0]I can see myself not agreeing with the conclusions, but to not even see the question broached in these terms is maddening.
- sleepybrett 3y agoI think there is also a consideration that should be made for traffic flow. Every time I see a report on these cars it's because they are clogging up a street or stopped dead in traffic. Of course no one reports when they are behaving well but at least if some asshole door dasher double parks and fouls traffic flow you can through persuasion or violence resolve the situation.
- saalweachter 3y agoWe -- in the US -- could cut our traffic-related death rate in half (or more!) by just doing whatever it is that most European countries [UK, German, Sweden, etc] do different from us. No advanced robotics necessary.
- thereisnospork 3y agoThe thing is we aren't doing those things. Maybe its because we don't want to, maybe its because we can't. My point is let's not add advanced robotics to the things we can't or won't do: There is a future where 40k automotive deaths/year becomes closer to 40 on the back of self-driving cars, but we can't get to that future[1] with the current level of risk tolerance. [1]And getting there slower has the opportunity cost of surplus deaths at the current rate minus the terminal rate - a year delay to that future costs 39,960 lives. (A year delay to ubiquitous public transport does as well ofc.)