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Is it the service that we kept seeing on the news with autonomous cars blocking intersections and emergency vehicles in California ?

baby 3y ago
I live in SF and ride waymo/cruise all the time and I think it sucks that the news focus on the few incidents because the whole thing is awesome
- stouset 3y ago
  As someone who has to share the street with inexcusably bad Cruise vehicles (Waymo vehicles seem to be fine, FWIW) this reads like "I think it sucks that the news focuses on the negative impact on others from my personal choices, because it really is very nice for me".
  - baby 3y ago
    No you should read “this thing is amazing for human advancements and to reduce traffic death globally and it also works pretty amazingly in SF besides a few hiccups”
    - stouset 3y ago
      > works pretty amazingly in SF For you the rider. Everyone else in this thread who has to deal with these vehicles in traffic is saying otherwise. If these things are perfect, they’d save about thirty lives per year in SF. That’s not nothing, but it’s not some unparalleled achievement either. Particularly when the cost is putting a large and vulnerable set of low-income people entirely out of work with nothing on the horizon to replace those jobs. Is it the future? Sure. Is it the future we want? I’m unconvinced.
      - baby 3y ago
        FUD? I also have a car and its fine
papercrane 3y ago
It would either be Waymo or Cruise. There's been viral videos of both blocking intersections, or being disabled with traffic cones.
_jal 3y ago
Yes. Cruise-branded robots keep failing all the driving tasks that aren't strictly about keeping it between the lanes and not running into other cars. Like this: https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/cruise-muni-sf-storms-driverless-17856051.php https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/cruise-muni-sf-storms... Cruise likes to bloodlessly recite stats about human driver fatalities in response. Which is the sort of bullshit non sequitur you get from a PR consultant, who gets away with it because we have stenographers in place of journalists.

baby 3y ago

I live in SF and ride waymo/cruise all the time and I think it sucks that the news focus on the few incidents because the whole thing is awesome

stouset 3y ago
As someone who has to share the street with inexcusably bad Cruise vehicles (Waymo vehicles seem to be fine, FWIW) this reads like "I think it sucks that the news focuses on the negative impact on others from my personal choices, because it really is very nice for me".
- baby 3y ago
  No you should read “this thing is amazing for human advancements and to reduce traffic death globally and it also works pretty amazingly in SF besides a few hiccups”
  - stouset 3y ago
    > works pretty amazingly in SF For you the rider. Everyone else in this thread who has to deal with these vehicles in traffic is saying otherwise. If these things are perfect, they’d save about thirty lives per year in SF. That’s not nothing, but it’s not some unparalleled achievement either. Particularly when the cost is putting a large and vulnerable set of low-income people entirely out of work with nothing on the horizon to replace those jobs. Is it the future? Sure. Is it the future we want? I’m unconvinced.
    - baby 3y ago
      FUD? I also have a car and its fine

papercrane 3y ago

It would either be Waymo or Cruise. There's been viral videos of both blocking intersections, or being disabled with traffic cones.

_jal 3y ago

Yes. Cruise-branded robots keep failing all the driving tasks that aren't strictly about keeping it between the lanes and not running into other cars. Like this: https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/cruise-muni-sf-storms-driverless-17856051.php https://www.sfchronicle.com/sf/article/cruise-muni-sf-storms... Cruise likes to bloodlessly recite stats about human driver fatalities in response. Which is the sort of bullshit non sequitur you get from a PR consultant, who gets away with it because we have stenographers in place of journalists.