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From what I can see, there does seem to be a strong correlation between how much attention one paid to the government and media, and the subsequent attribution
by VancouverMan 3y ago
From what I can see, there does seem to be a strong correlation between how much attention one paid to the government and media, and the subsequent attribution of health issues to having tested positive for an infection at some point.
Among the people I know and that I'm aware of, there are three broad groups (spanning age, sex, and numerous other traits):
1) People who generally ignored the fear that governments, doctors, and the media tried to instill. They disregarded the lockdowns and other measures imposed by government, and remained calm. They didn't take tests, they didn't wear masks, they didn't get any shots, and they generally went about their lives as best that they could as if nothing was happening.
2) People who bought into it, and got somewhat worked up whenever it was pushed by the media. They masked, they stayed indoors when asked to do so, they took tests when they had to, they got shots and maybe boosters, and so on. But once the media focus moved on to other topics, they pretty much forgot about it all and moved on, too.
3) People who became extremely paranoid. Some of them masked month after month, even while at home, which they avoided leaving for weeks at a time. They took daily tests. They've taken every shot and booster available. They lived in a constant state of fear for years. Even after most other people moved on, they didn't, or in some cases, still haven't.
The people I know who fall into the first group are consistently doing well, including those in their 70s, 80s, and even a few in their 90s. None have died, and none have had any major medical problems. I know that some of them don't even know if they ever contracted it, since they never got tested. If they had it, it was indistinguishable from any other cold or flu.
It's a mix for people in the second group, although this is a numerically larger group. Some have had major health complications, including cancer and cardiovascular-related issues, but they generally don't blame their health problems on having tested positive for infection at some point.
The third group are the only ones I hear of attributing ongoing health problems, no matter how minor or common, to a prior infection. Collectively, they now seem to have more serious medical issues, even among those who appeared quite healthy prior to early 2020. Also, I know that a number of these people are repeatedly testing positive for infection, even recently, despite having had numerous shots and boosters, and despite having supposedly overcome one or more prior infections that should have granted some degree of immunity.
I can't say for sure if it's the only factor, but a person displaying more fear/paranoia in the past and present does appear to correlate with more medical problems in the present, and a greater likelihood of attributing such problems to having had prior test-indicated infection(s).
- garganzol 3y agoInteresting take. For what it's worth, being paranoid drains energy, and energy is a scarce resource for those with distinguishable forms of Covid.
- giraffe_lady 3y agoI'm originally from a deeply impoverished rural area where you see a lot of maga flags in yards, etc and I still have a lot of ties to the place. Public health was already in the gutter after the back to back meth and opioid epidemics plus just the general toll that poverty and hard labor takes on your body. The general mood there was anti mask from the beginning and anti vaccine once that emerged, obviously. And let me tell you, those people got FUCKED UP by covid. No one I know there has any grandparents now! They all died of covid. Several families lost a parent in their 50s to covid, several more to "pneumonia" since like you said they don't even test for it. Another handful are newly bedridden with mysterious illnesses that they're totally sure have nothing to do with covid. I'm not certain that they do either but it's hard to rule it out. So I don't know man. I don't know who you know. But the people I know who ignored covid get wrecked by it. Every family touched.
- VancouverMan 3y agoOf the people I referred to, many were in Canada (primarily BC, Ontario, Alberta, and Quebec) at the time, but they're from a wide variety of ancestries, nations-of-origin, and socioeconomic statuses. Most of the rest were living primarily in the US, Europe, Australia, and India at the time. A small number were in other Asian nations. The least-fearful subset tended to be in Ontario and Alberta, the central US, Eastern Europe, and India. The most-fearful subset were in BC, Quebec, urban Ontario, the coastal and urban areas of the US, and urban Western Europe. For the grandparents you mention in the cases you're aware of, were they in care homes of some sort? In Canada, for example, neglect was allegedly a serious problem at some facilities, even leading to significant numbers of deaths there among the elderly: "Patients died from neglect, not COVID-19, in Ontario LTC homes, military report finds: ‘All they needed was water and a wipe down’" https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-canadian-military-report-documents-deplorable-conditions-at-two/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-canadian-mili... Could something like that have been going on in the region you mention?