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1. ok, so the word 'kinda' is not an essential part of the doctrine, got it. 2. 'profound and incomprehensible suffering' - what is Jesus supposed to have suff
by kawhah 3y ago
1. ok, so the word 'kinda' is not an essential part of the doctrine, got it.
2. 'profound and incomprehensible suffering' - what is Jesus supposed to have suffered which is different from many other humans who have been betrayed, tortured and killed? Whatever you think it is, it appears to be extra-biblical. The Gethsemane quote is just "my soul is exceedingly sorrowful, even unto death". Allowing for loss in translation this is an expression of suffering well within human experience.
3. 'the vast majority do beleive that there are effects for everyone, regardless of belief in this life or the next' Sorry, no. The vast majority of modern Christians belong to churches for which 'sola fide' is not just an essential part of their theology, but the foundation of their existence.
- explaininjs 3y agoRather, the lack of the word "kinda" is an essential part of the doctrine. And everyone is affected: even if they may not be saved, they are all still resurrected in the end days. This is uncontroversial, and documented throughout the bible. Here is a summary: https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/will-all-people-be-resurrected-or-just-believers https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/will-all-people-be-resu...
- kawhah 3y agoActually, it's super controversial, even among Christians. If it is documented through the Bible, that's not evinced by your link (to a conservative Evangelical website), which only cites Acts and John, two very closely related parts of the Bible. And neither of those says anything about the resurrection of those who are not saved happening because of Jesus's sacrifice.
- explaininjs 3y agoHebrews also states that "we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all". And not sure why you say "conservative Evangelical" as if it means less. They are the most biblically-based sect around.