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Ah, I totally forgot the swimmong pool scare of the summer of '23, thanks for reminding me! I agree, armed border police having, if it was up to conservative p

by hef19898 3y ago

Ah, I totally forgot the swimmong pool scare of the summer of '23, thanks for reminding me! I agree, armed border police having, if it was up to conservative politians, a mandatebto use force for illegal push bavks are propably not a net benefit for society. By the way, you should be less on social media.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
>illegal push bavks Since when is it illegal to stop people who don't have the right to enter a country? That's exactly the job of the border security and why you pay taxes for and why borders exist and why countries that defend their borders the best and are most selective with who they let in tend to be the safest and most desirable to live in. When you board off the plane in Germany try to make a run for it and bypass the the passport control/customs area and see what happens. I assure you, in case you don't get shot, you'll be swiftly put down by force and arrested with guns pointed at your face. Why shouldn't the same strict rules apply to everyone else? Do you have locks at your house, or do you let everyone in off the street because stopping them would be illegal according to your logic?
- hef19898 3y ago
  OLAF disagrees with ypur feelings: https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/10/14/eu-border-agency-frontex-covered-up-illegal-migrant-pushbacks-says-report https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/10/14/eu-border-agen... https://www.politico.eu/article/olaf-opens-investigation-on-frontex-for-allegations-of-pushbacks-and-misconduct/ https://www.politico.eu/article/olaf-opens-investigation-on-...
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    That's just the broken and outdated asylum system being abused by economic opportunists and people smugglers. Cracking down on it would make people smuggling disappear over night and save many lives in the process.
    - hef19898 3y ago
      I just love people casually denying basic human rights...
      - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
        It's not a human right to enter and live in whichever country you desire without a visa. Each country has the right to defend its borders, that's what the border police and the military is for. Only if you can prove your life is in danger, then you're entitled to asylum in the first safe country you can reach, not 10 safe countries over in Sweden, Germany, UK, or whichever wealthy country you desire to live in once you throw away your passport because you're not from a county at war and you intentionally sink your boat so that the coast guard will be forced to pick you up. That's how human rights work, everything else is just abusing the asylum systems for personal economic benefit.
        hef19898 3y ago
        Asylum is a human right. You didn't even bother looking that up, did you? Military wages war, and defends against other militaries. Border police doesn't do push backs.
        FirmwareBurner 3y ago
        >Asylum is a human right. It's not. It's only to those who qualify for asylum, but this system is so lax and poorly enforced that is abused by economic chancers, and not people ruining away from wars. Look at the nationalities of those arriving form boats, 90% are not from war torn countries, they don't qualify for asylum. Also, asylum means the first safe country you can reach, not your proffered EU country. To reach Germany you need to go through 4-8 safe countries which is where the asylum scam lies and why the system needs reformed.
        hef19898 3y ago
        Now we are getting somewhere, maybe. You don't agree with the current asylum.policies? Fair enough, you are not alone and even the SPD chancelor favors harder measures (no suprise here, I'm totally in tje opposite camp). Then argue for reform. But don't start with denying people their basic right of seeking asylum, don't argue for illegal measures to be taken, and please, pleade, try to really research and understand the basic legal principles of what you discuss. Otherwise you just come across as a radical, borderline racist blowhard.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago

>illegal push bavks Since when is it illegal to stop people who don't have the right to enter a country? That's exactly the job of the border security and why you pay taxes for and why borders exist and why countries that defend their borders the best and are most selective with who they let in tend to be the safest and most desirable to live in. When you board off the plane in Germany try to make a run for it and bypass the the passport control/customs area and see what happens. I assure you, in case you don't get shot, you'll be swiftly put down by force and arrested with guns pointed at your face. Why shouldn't the same strict rules apply to everyone else? Do you have locks at your house, or do you let everyone in off the street because stopping them would be illegal according to your logic?

hef19898 3y ago
OLAF disagrees with ypur feelings: https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/10/14/eu-border-agency-frontex-covered-up-illegal-migrant-pushbacks-says-report https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/10/14/eu-border-agen... https://www.politico.eu/article/olaf-opens-investigation-on-frontex-for-allegations-of-pushbacks-and-misconduct/ https://www.politico.eu/article/olaf-opens-investigation-on-...
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  That's just the broken and outdated asylum system being abused by economic opportunists and people smugglers. Cracking down on it would make people smuggling disappear over night and save many lives in the process.
  - hef19898 3y ago
    I just love people casually denying basic human rights...
    - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
      It's not a human right to enter and live in whichever country you desire without a visa. Each country has the right to defend its borders, that's what the border police and the military is for. Only if you can prove your life is in danger, then you're entitled to asylum in the first safe country you can reach, not 10 safe countries over in Sweden, Germany, UK, or whichever wealthy country you desire to live in once you throw away your passport because you're not from a county at war and you intentionally sink your boat so that the coast guard will be forced to pick you up. That's how human rights work, everything else is just abusing the asylum systems for personal economic benefit.
      - hef19898 3y ago
        Asylum is a human right. You didn't even bother looking that up, did you? Military wages war, and defends against other militaries. Border police doesn't do push backs.
        FirmwareBurner 3y ago
        >Asylum is a human right. It's not. It's only to those who qualify for asylum, but this system is so lax and poorly enforced that is abused by economic chancers, and not people ruining away from wars. Look at the nationalities of those arriving form boats, 90% are not from war torn countries, they don't qualify for asylum. Also, asylum means the first safe country you can reach, not your proffered EU country. To reach Germany you need to go through 4-8 safe countries which is where the asylum scam lies and why the system needs reformed.
        hef19898 3y ago
        Now we are getting somewhere, maybe. You don't agree with the current asylum.policies? Fair enough, you are not alone and even the SPD chancelor favors harder measures (no suprise here, I'm totally in tje opposite camp). Then argue for reform. But don't start with denying people their basic right of seeking asylum, don't argue for illegal measures to be taken, and please, pleade, try to really research and understand the basic legal principles of what you discuss. Otherwise you just come across as a radical, borderline racist blowhard.