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My own success with battling depression had so much to do with controlling the adhd that we've talked about tapering off the SSRI's. I wouldn't be surprised if

My own success with battling depression had so much to do with controlling the adhd that we've talked about tapering off the SSRI's. I wouldn't be surprised if they become dramatically less prescribed over time. Mindfulness, communication, learning how to rest and better time management techniques have more than likely done more for my mental health than the SSRIs. I'd love to taper off with them one day but we'll see. Which pharmaceutical is going to back this clinical trial though??

stef25 3y ago
> Mindfulness, communication, learning how to rest and better time management techniques Doubtful that these things will cure depression though
- efields 3y ago
  What does cure mean? You just stop feeling sad? What does that mean? What happens when you're sad again after your depression is cured? What may have lead to depression? What may prevent it from coming back? What if certain things about your brain are gonna just be like that for life and you're the only one who has the burden of dealing with it? How will you? What if what you're striving for in life is realistically _unattainable_ and something about your brain thinks it is so you try really hard to fight reality and get depressed? You have to unlearn bad habits your brain picked up over time that it merely thought were good survival skills at the moment. SSRI or psychedelics alone will not fully help a person. They can be a step in the right direction. The body keeps the score.
- InSteady 3y ago
  Not sure if this is where GP got them, but these are techniques straight out of Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, one of the most broadly successful evidence-based clinical therapy frameworks. Don't undersell the value of learning how to rest. It is more complex and has far more healing power than the understated phrasing implies. A lot of important processes in the body only take place when the parasympathetic nervous system is active (including proper digestion, which is where all of our neurotransmitters come from either directly or by way of precursor molecules). This is likely a big part of why chronic stress is so strongly correlated with poor health.

stef25 3y ago

> Mindfulness, communication, learning how to rest and better time management techniques Doubtful that these things will cure depression though

efields 3y ago
What does cure mean? You just stop feeling sad? What does that mean? What happens when you're sad again after your depression is cured? What may have lead to depression? What may prevent it from coming back? What if certain things about your brain are gonna just be like that for life and you're the only one who has the burden of dealing with it? How will you? What if what you're striving for in life is realistically _unattainable_ and something about your brain thinks it is so you try really hard to fight reality and get depressed? You have to unlearn bad habits your brain picked up over time that it merely thought were good survival skills at the moment. SSRI or psychedelics alone will not fully help a person. They can be a step in the right direction. The body keeps the score.
InSteady 3y ago
Not sure if this is where GP got them, but these are techniques straight out of Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, one of the most broadly successful evidence-based clinical therapy frameworks. Don't undersell the value of learning how to rest. It is more complex and has far more healing power than the understated phrasing implies. A lot of important processes in the body only take place when the parasympathetic nervous system is active (including proper digestion, which is where all of our neurotransmitters come from either directly or by way of precursor molecules). This is likely a big part of why chronic stress is so strongly correlated with poor health.