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> I understand that Europe is much more balanced than Australia on this one. I'm in the UK. It depends what you mean by "balanced". What I'm seeing on TV news

> I understand that Europe is much more balanced than Australia on this one. I'm in the UK. It depends what you mean by "balanced". What I'm seeing on TV news has been changing. At first, they didn't try to link Hamas to terrorism. They've been berated by Israelis for that; so now every time they mention Hamas, they add a clause like "Hamas, an organisation that is proscribed in the UK and many other countries for terrorism". Apart from that, the "balance" I'm seeing is a kind of passive-aggressive pseudo-balance. For example, they do report statements from Israeli leaders calling for the expulsion of all Palestinians from Gaza; in some cases, favourably (as if moving two million people from Gaza into refugee camps in the Sinai desert is a sensible compromise). So, they express hope that Egypt will open the border at Rafah, which is exactly what these Israeli extremists want. There's no serious questioning or investigation of the claims from the IDF or Israeli government. You just see lots of wailing grandmas (in Israel and in Gaza), which seems to be the MSM's standard way of reporting conflicts these days. So it's war-porn.

denton-scratch 3y ago
BTW, the other thing that's "odd" is that all the channels have their tone in sync; BBC, ITV and CH4 change their tone in lockstep.
starik36 3y ago
Which Israeli leader called for the expulsion of all Palestinians from Gaza? I haven't heard or read any of that.
- Stevvo 3y ago
  https://twitter.com/MisgavINS/status/1714183691574948036 https://twitter.com/MisgavINS/status/1714183691574948036 Think tank of a former PM.
  - smsm42 3y ago
    I think there's a big difference between "Israeli leaders call for expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza" (presenting it as if it were an official governmental policy, which it never was), and a single paper by a think tank - no idea which "former PM" you are referring to, none of the people affiliated with Misgav[1] seem to fit this description. In any case, there's some number of people thinking evacuating Gaza is desireable, in Israel - and much larger number of people thinking getting rid of Jews in Palestine (you do realize that's what "Free Palestine" and "from the river to the sea" means, do you), both in Middle East and in Europe and on any college campus in the US. Neither is likely to happen, but the latter is the official political position of the government of Gaza (Hamas) and the former is no more than a single paper by a single think tank. [1] https://www.izs.org.il/board-of-directors/ https://www.izs.org.il/board-of-directors/

denton-scratch 3y ago

BTW, the other thing that's "odd" is that all the channels have their tone in sync; BBC, ITV and CH4 change their tone in lockstep.

starik36 3y ago

Which Israeli leader called for the expulsion of all Palestinians from Gaza? I haven't heard or read any of that.

Stevvo 3y ago
https://twitter.com/MisgavINS/status/1714183691574948036 https://twitter.com/MisgavINS/status/1714183691574948036 Think tank of a former PM.
- smsm42 3y ago
  I think there's a big difference between "Israeli leaders call for expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza" (presenting it as if it were an official governmental policy, which it never was), and a single paper by a think tank - no idea which "former PM" you are referring to, none of the people affiliated with Misgav[1] seem to fit this description. In any case, there's some number of people thinking evacuating Gaza is desireable, in Israel - and much larger number of people thinking getting rid of Jews in Palestine (you do realize that's what "Free Palestine" and "from the river to the sea" means, do you), both in Middle East and in Europe and on any college campus in the US. Neither is likely to happen, but the latter is the official political position of the government of Gaza (Hamas) and the former is no more than a single paper by a single think tank. [1] https://www.izs.org.il/board-of-directors/ https://www.izs.org.il/board-of-directors/