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I just wish they would stop moving around the UI deck chairs. Seriously. In Ventura (or the previous release, who knows, I don't keep track, why should I, it's

by titzer 3y ago

I just wish they would stop moving around the UI deck chairs. Seriously. In Ventura (or the previous release, who knows, I don't keep track, why should I, it's a waste, I honestly care zero), they completely reorganized how System Settings is laid out. Like why in tarnation is that even necessary? There absolutely NO WAY that some UI study or UX principles led to the redesign of this thing. It was just done on a whim (well, a corporate whim, some PM and their little team got a big boost to their egos to make some kind of impact). Stop taking away my skills. I have to relearn everything all the time, for no damn reason. And get off my lawn.

threeseed 3y ago
Settings was re-designed to align macOS to iOS, ipadOS and visionOS. So that people who have bought an iPhone and buying a Mac for the first time can change their computer settings in the same way they are used to on their phone.
- sotix 3y ago
  That’s a good point, yet one I find disappointing. I believe settings is one of the biggest pain points of iOS. It’s extraordinarily unintuitive, which can be seen comparing it to settings on Android. I find the Android settings a lot easier to navigate. This would have been a great time to rewrite the iOS settings rather than adopting its style elsewhere. It’s as if knowing how to use Apple products efficiently has developed into requiring a very specific domain knowledge, and Apple continues to develop for these pseudo experts that know the quirks rather than improving the intuitiveness and usability for those less familiar.
  - Obscurity4340 3y ago
    This is interesting all the same but are you seriously arguing they should have designed iOS Settings in the likeness of MacOS Settings? Do you know if there's any like artist renderings or something that could help visually/graphically represent that? Just can't see it but I'm open to entertain it if there's something to demonstrate its validity...
    - Obscurity4340 3y ago
      *redesigned
jen20 3y ago
Have you received news of our lord and saviour, `defaults write`?
- Obscurity4340 3y ago
  Please elaborate (but yes I'm familiar)
  - jen20 3y ago
    Almost every setting can be automated via `defaults write`, so there's barely never a need to even look at the system preferences/settings UI. [1] lists many of them. [1]: https://macos-defaults.com https://macos-defaults.com
    - Obscurity4340 3y ago
      Is there a way to make sure you can automate shutdown of your Mac where its like non-negotiable and doesnt matter if its closed and theres no stupid menu that can screw it up? Like not sleep or hibernate but just shut down?
Obscurity4340 3y ago
In Soviet Russia, lawn gets you off
Obscurity4340 3y ago
Worst case scenario, it should basically always be customizable. This shit where they block of the defaults:write option until the next OS version if ever or there's a blowup in the media/scrutiny or they pull the bullshit SIP card when nobody fucking needs AppleTV or AppleNews or iMessage etc on their Mac, yeah. I wish MacOS would get to Microsoft levels of uniquity so various Justice Departments around the world could cut the cord on this horseshit.
- Obscurity4340 3y ago
  Via antitrust or whatever they need to do

by titzer 3y ago

threeseed 3y ago

Settings was re-designed to align macOS to iOS, ipadOS and visionOS. So that people who have bought an iPhone and buying a Mac for the first time can change their computer settings in the same way they are used to on their phone.

sotix 3y ago
That’s a good point, yet one I find disappointing. I believe settings is one of the biggest pain points of iOS. It’s extraordinarily unintuitive, which can be seen comparing it to settings on Android. I find the Android settings a lot easier to navigate. This would have been a great time to rewrite the iOS settings rather than adopting its style elsewhere. It’s as if knowing how to use Apple products efficiently has developed into requiring a very specific domain knowledge, and Apple continues to develop for these pseudo experts that know the quirks rather than improving the intuitiveness and usability for those less familiar.
- Obscurity4340 3y ago
  This is interesting all the same but are you seriously arguing they should have designed iOS Settings in the likeness of MacOS Settings? Do you know if there's any like artist renderings or something that could help visually/graphically represent that? Just can't see it but I'm open to entertain it if there's something to demonstrate its validity...
  - Obscurity4340 3y ago
    *redesigned

jen20 3y ago

Have you received news of our lord and saviour, `defaults write`?

Obscurity4340 3y ago
Please elaborate (but yes I'm familiar)
- jen20 3y ago
  Almost every setting can be automated via `defaults write`, so there's barely never a need to even look at the system preferences/settings UI. [1] lists many of them. [1]: https://macos-defaults.com https://macos-defaults.com
  - Obscurity4340 3y ago
    Is there a way to make sure you can automate shutdown of your Mac where its like non-negotiable and doesnt matter if its closed and theres no stupid menu that can screw it up? Like not sleep or hibernate but just shut down?

Obscurity4340 3y ago

In Soviet Russia, lawn gets you off

Obscurity4340 3y ago

Worst case scenario, it should basically always be customizable. This shit where they block of the defaults:write option until the next OS version if ever or there's a blowup in the media/scrutiny or they pull the bullshit SIP card when nobody fucking needs AppleTV or AppleNews or iMessage etc on their Mac, yeah. I wish MacOS would get to Microsoft levels of uniquity so various Justice Departments around the world could cut the cord on this horseshit.

Obscurity4340 3y ago
Via antitrust or whatever they need to do