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And for me, dreaming of lo-fi paper-like (no animation, no unnecessary display elements, humble palette, no light emission) working and studying experience, the

And for me, dreaming of lo-fi paper-like (no animation, no unnecessary display elements, humble palette, no light emission) working and studying experience, the refresh time has to fit under 1 second (ideally somewhat higher, at least for partial updates, but 10Hz will be more than enough) and the colour space is irrelevant. I'd love either a palletre of 4-8 slightly-grayish (like I've seen on some eBooks) colours or just a good grayscale. Even a simple black-white would do.

Aaargh20318 3y ago
That sounds exactly like e-paper devices that already exist. Something like a Kindle Scribe.
- dredmorbius 3y ago
  This. Such devices have been on the market for years. I've owned an Onyx BOOX Max Lumi (13.3" e-ink Android tablet) for nearly 3 years now. Monochrome 16-shade greyscale (with dithering for better presentation of images). It's excellent for reading straight text, line drawings, and most webpages, though a pagination-based navigation is much preferable to scrolling. Refresh is ~8--16 Hz, though that varies by display mode. It's possible to view video on the device, though you'd generally prefer not to. Animations are generally annoying A.F.
awiesenhofer 3y ago
What you describe already exists in multiple ereaders and eink tablets. Check out Bigme or Onyx Boox tablets or displays, they come in all sizes, some with color some bw, and their tablets run pretty much standard Android. Great for studying, etc.
- qwerty456127 3y ago
  I don't want Android, I want a real desktop OS and at least 15″ display. As for e-books, of course I have one and use it to read books. But I also want to use e-ink for everything else I normally do on a computer (I mostly do it slowly so low refresh rate is Ok), including full-featured window management.
  - Aaargh20318 3y ago
    e-paper monitors do exist, for example: https://shop.dasung.com/products/dasung-25-3-curved-e-ink-monitor-paperlike-253-u https://shop.dasung.com/products/dasung-25-3-curved-e-ink-mo...

Aaargh20318 3y ago

That sounds exactly like e-paper devices that already exist. Something like a Kindle Scribe.

dredmorbius 3y ago
This. Such devices have been on the market for years. I've owned an Onyx BOOX Max Lumi (13.3" e-ink Android tablet) for nearly 3 years now. Monochrome 16-shade greyscale (with dithering for better presentation of images). It's excellent for reading straight text, line drawings, and most webpages, though a pagination-based navigation is much preferable to scrolling. Refresh is ~8--16 Hz, though that varies by display mode. It's possible to view video on the device, though you'd generally prefer not to. Animations are generally annoying A.F.

awiesenhofer 3y ago

What you describe already exists in multiple ereaders and eink tablets. Check out Bigme or Onyx Boox tablets or displays, they come in all sizes, some with color some bw, and their tablets run pretty much standard Android. Great for studying, etc.

qwerty456127 3y ago
I don't want Android, I want a real desktop OS and at least 15″ display. As for e-books, of course I have one and use it to read books. But I also want to use e-ink for everything else I normally do on a computer (I mostly do it slowly so low refresh rate is Ok), including full-featured window management.
- Aaargh20318 3y ago
  e-paper monitors do exist, for example: https://shop.dasung.com/products/dasung-25-3-curved-e-ink-monitor-paperlike-253-u https://shop.dasung.com/products/dasung-25-3-curved-e-ink-mo...