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False, because it's not only a matter of technical difficulty, but also one of economics. Very unlikely for your average person to be a victim of a deliberate t

False, because it's not only a matter of technical difficulty, but also one of economics. Very unlikely for your average person to be a victim of a deliberate targeted attack.

mirzap 3y ago
Not targeted, but a random attack and data leak is very likely. Much more likely than if they used the service. That's why 99.999% of people should stick with the services.
- usrbinbash 3y ago
  A random attack that just happens to breach specifically my home server, that uses custom made service scripts to enable syncing to my devices, isn't reachable from the internet, and is airgapped from my DMZ? Which then somehow manages to exfiltrate and decrypt data that is still encrypted with a public key, the private key to which is not stored on that system, and itself encrypted symetrically? Yeah, that doesn't sound like a "random attack" to me, that sounds like a subplot in a Keanu Reeves Movie...
blantonl 3y ago
What is an "average person?" There is probably a half way decent chance that the vast majority of participants here, in singular, that would be economically gold mines for compromise.
- mirzap 3y ago
  A bad term, I would say now, "most people." For me, hosting a password manager is like hosting an email server. There are situations where it makes sense. But for 99.99% of people, services are just good enough. Not to mention what a gold mine emails are if they get compromised.
dubcanada 3y ago
I suppose in that sense hanging out with a rich friend would mean you're very unlikely to be kidnapped. While probably true most of the time. It does give you a false sense of security, which makes you a very easy and potentially profitable catch. If you fail to update and a scripted bot catches you, the actor notified will certainly see what's in there. And if anything you're more likely never to find out. Which means they can just come after a few months later. Maybe they stole your first CC and then your second CC. I think there is possibilities there that make sense.

False, because it's not only a matter of technical difficulty, but also one of economics. Very unlikely for your average person to be a victim of a deliberate targeted attack.

mirzap 3y ago

Not targeted, but a random attack and data leak is very likely. Much more likely than if they used the service. That's why 99.999% of people should stick with the services.

usrbinbash 3y ago
A random attack that just happens to breach specifically my home server, that uses custom made service scripts to enable syncing to my devices, isn't reachable from the internet, and is airgapped from my DMZ? Which then somehow manages to exfiltrate and decrypt data that is still encrypted with a public key, the private key to which is not stored on that system, and itself encrypted symetrically? Yeah, that doesn't sound like a "random attack" to me, that sounds like a subplot in a Keanu Reeves Movie...

blantonl 3y ago

What is an "average person?" There is probably a half way decent chance that the vast majority of participants here, in singular, that would be economically gold mines for compromise.

mirzap 3y ago
A bad term, I would say now, "most people." For me, hosting a password manager is like hosting an email server. There are situations where it makes sense. But for 99.99% of people, services are just good enough. Not to mention what a gold mine emails are if they get compromised.

dubcanada 3y ago

I suppose in that sense hanging out with a rich friend would mean you're very unlikely to be kidnapped. While probably true most of the time. It does give you a false sense of security, which makes you a very easy and potentially profitable catch. If you fail to update and a scripted bot catches you, the actor notified will certainly see what's in there. And if anything you're more likely never to find out. Which means they can just come after a few months later. Maybe they stole your first CC and then your second CC. I think there is possibilities there that make sense.