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If they’d written their code in golang or rust, they’d have been out-competed by a competitor who iterated faster and got better product-market fit. The only re

If they’d written their code in golang or rust, they’d have been out-competed by a competitor who iterated faster and got better product-market fit. The only reason the three companies have the opportunity to suffer from scaling challenges is that they were wildly successful.

pantulis 3y ago
Or, putting it the other way around: they out-competed their competitors because they were using RoR.
- itake 3y ago
  Do you have a source? which is bigger: WooCommerce or Shopify? Does WooCommerce use Ruby or PHP?
  - mathverse 3y ago
    Your comparison does not really make sense to me or I am perhaps missing your point. PHP and Ruby are in the same category of fast response loop and ability to develop quickly.
itake 3y ago
- Uber is built on Golang. - Lyft is built in Python (which IMHO, is comparable to ruby). Who out computed who? - WooCommerce is written in PHP. - Shopify is written in Ruby. Who has more customers? hint: [0] I do not think programming languages define a company's success. [0] - https://6sense.com/tech/ecommerce-platform/woocommerce-vs-shopify https://6sense.com/tech/ecommerce-platform/woocommerce-vs-sh...
- les_diabolique 3y ago
  Uber was initially built in Python, then migrated to Node and now Go
- lawgimenez 3y ago
  Instagram is still on Django.
pixelatedgengar 3y ago
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report-to-trees 3y ago
Having worked for one of those company's, I think the productivity of Rails is overstated. Yes it's quick to get a rough demo and POC working (which is already plenty quick in many other frameworks) but once you get into the weeds of actually building and iterating the difference is not so great. I think particularly if you look at these established companies, what tech stack they are running often is just a matter of what the founders knew at the time. The business wasn't successful because they chose Rails, it was a successful business who happened to pick Rails to start with.
- AlchemistCamp 3y ago
  Were you working for them in the early days as one of the first 10 employees or were you there after they’d already found product-market fit?
- alberth 3y ago
  What framework would you recommend instead? Just curious.
  - randomdata 3y ago
    The one you already know is going to be the best framework for quickly iterating on an early business idea.
MrRolleyes 3y ago
I don't even think that's it—as convenient it is to explain—if someone knew exactly what product they were building java would have done just fine. Realistically scaling just isn't a bottleneck for most companies at the beginning. Excepting maybe, maybe, twitter.

pantulis 3y ago

Or, putting it the other way around: they out-competed their competitors because they were using RoR.

itake 3y ago
Do you have a source? which is bigger: WooCommerce or Shopify? Does WooCommerce use Ruby or PHP?
- mathverse 3y ago
  Your comparison does not really make sense to me or I am perhaps missing your point. PHP and Ruby are in the same category of fast response loop and ability to develop quickly.

itake 3y ago

- Uber is built on Golang. - Lyft is built in Python (which IMHO, is comparable to ruby). Who out computed who? - WooCommerce is written in PHP. - Shopify is written in Ruby. Who has more customers? hint: [0] I do not think programming languages define a company's success. [0] - https://6sense.com/tech/ecommerce-platform/woocommerce-vs-shopify https://6sense.com/tech/ecommerce-platform/woocommerce-vs-sh...

les_diabolique 3y ago
Uber was initially built in Python, then migrated to Node and now Go
lawgimenez 3y ago
Instagram is still on Django.

pixelatedgengar 3y ago

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report-to-trees 3y ago

Having worked for one of those company's, I think the productivity of Rails is overstated. Yes it's quick to get a rough demo and POC working (which is already plenty quick in many other frameworks) but once you get into the weeds of actually building and iterating the difference is not so great. I think particularly if you look at these established companies, what tech stack they are running often is just a matter of what the founders knew at the time. The business wasn't successful because they chose Rails, it was a successful business who happened to pick Rails to start with.

AlchemistCamp 3y ago
Were you working for them in the early days as one of the first 10 employees or were you there after they’d already found product-market fit?
alberth 3y ago
What framework would you recommend instead? Just curious.
- randomdata 3y ago
  The one you already know is going to be the best framework for quickly iterating on an early business idea.

MrRolleyes 3y ago

I don't even think that's it—as convenient it is to explain—if someone knew exactly what product they were building java would have done just fine. Realistically scaling just isn't a bottleneck for most companies at the beginning. Excepting maybe, maybe, twitter.