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> Saying “just self-host anything” makes a massive assumption that your company can afford to compete against Okta/Google for the same talent. I have always fo
by lopkeny12ko 3y ago
> Saying “just self-host anything” makes a massive assumption that your company can afford to compete against Okta/Google for the same talent.
I have always found this argument so interesting. I host tens of services myself on a Raspberry Pi, with better uptime than many of your favorite cloud services. If a company cannot find even one person, earning a software salary, to host an open source IDP for tens or hundreds of employees, either something is deeply wrong with the company, the sysadmin talent pool, or both.
- m1keil 3y agoAlso when you self host, you don't need to "compete" with alternatives. Your goal isn't to provide service on the same scale as the commercial alternatives, but to provide a service to solve your local problem.
- bostik 3y agoThe problem isn't hosting, it's the maintenance and plumbing. Companies learn the same lessons painfully when it comes to build-vs-buy. There is no such thing as "buy". There is "build", and there is "buy-and-build". Purchasing and deploying (or in executive speak, "implementing") a particular solution is at best 30% of the work - and less than that of the cost. The remainder goes into integrations, maintenance, customisations, ongoing configuration, adapting to ongoing user behaviour changes, adapting to ongoing development needs, etc. Running an IdP is one of the very few ventures where four nines of reliability is still inadequate. Once you have a centralised auth, it CAN NOT break.