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I still have a few Ogg Vorbis audio files from many years ago too. Wonder if I can still play them on anything...

by Nursie 3y ago

tech234a 3y ago
Probably VLC
- pdntspa 3y ago
  Winamp, foobar2000
  - Ygg2 3y ago
    Winamp still exists? I thought it was resold twenty times to various shady entities.
    - lproven 3y ago
      Relaunched about a year ago. The website is so unremittingly awful I didn't even spin up a Windows VM to try it. Massive, all bitmaps, almost no text, no actual info at all, mentions blockchain. https://www.winamp.com/ https://www.winamp.com/
    - neckro23 3y ago
      There’s a modernized fork of it: https://getwacup.com/ https://getwacup.com/ The official one is still around, but last I checked it had a crash bug in the media library plugin.
    - pdntspa 3y ago
      It has always existed. The final release from years ago still works, and whoever owns it now has been updating it under version 5.9 fairly recently. There is a "Winamp 6" on the way supposedly...
PaulDavisThe1st 3y ago
My entire music collection is encoded as ogg/vorbis (16k+ tracks). Just about everything I own can play them. Including rockbox on my sansa clip+. Writing about ogg vorbis as if it is a historical format is silly. Sure, it wasn't adopted by streamers, but everything on Bandcamp (for example) is available as ogg/vorbis.
- Nursie 3y ago
  I did have a little sansa clip+ with rockbox a few years back, great little machine. I think I thought of it more as a historical format because Xiph have said that Opus supersedes it. I mostly stopped caring because of streaming some years ago now. I have my 'old' collection as a mix of mp3 and some ogg vorbis, dating from before the streaming era. These days I buy some CDs from bands I want to support, but listen to everything by streaming. I get the whole "<Streamer of choice> pays nothing to the artists!" argument. OTOH most the stuff I stream I also own, I'm just using streaming services to save me the hassle of ripping and hosting somewhere for access by all my devices.
  - wwalexander 3y ago
    Just FYI, Apple Music supports automatic iCloud syncing of your personal music files that you drag into your library. Most of what I listen to is on streaming, but I can have non-streaming music, bootlegs, vinyl rips, Bandcamp purchases, and music only available on SoundCloud or YouTube (via yt-dlp) seamlessly alongside the streaming stuff. I’ve tried to explain how limiting any other streaming service is to friends, but I’ve mostly been met with blank stares at the mere concept of wanting to listen to off-streaming music or even where one would come across actual music files these days.
    - Nursie 3y ago
      That's pretty cool, especially as my collection has a bunch of 90s-00s goth and indie bits and pieces which just aren't present on the streaming services. This was something google play music was supposed to do as well, though that's dead now!
ReactiveJelly 3y ago
Uh, Firefox? Chromium? Did everyone else but me give up on Vorbis? It works great. Opus is nicer for bitrate but for a long time Vorbis used way less CPU to decode than Opus. All my music is Vorbis, Opus, or ripped m4as, and browsers take it all fine. The first version of WebM actually used Vorbis. It's the newer ones that are Opus.

I still have a few Ogg Vorbis audio files from many years ago too. Wonder if I can still play them on anything...

by Nursie 3y ago

I still have a few Ogg Vorbis audio files from many years ago too. Wonder if I can still play them on anything...

tech234a 3y ago

Probably VLC

pdntspa 3y ago
Winamp, foobar2000
- Ygg2 3y ago
  Winamp still exists? I thought it was resold twenty times to various shady entities.
  - lproven 3y ago
    Relaunched about a year ago. The website is so unremittingly awful I didn't even spin up a Windows VM to try it. Massive, all bitmaps, almost no text, no actual info at all, mentions blockchain. https://www.winamp.com/ https://www.winamp.com/
  - neckro23 3y ago
    There’s a modernized fork of it: https://getwacup.com/ https://getwacup.com/ The official one is still around, but last I checked it had a crash bug in the media library plugin.
  - pdntspa 3y ago
    It has always existed. The final release from years ago still works, and whoever owns it now has been updating it under version 5.9 fairly recently. There is a "Winamp 6" on the way supposedly...

PaulDavisThe1st 3y ago

My entire music collection is encoded as ogg/vorbis (16k+ tracks). Just about everything I own can play them. Including rockbox on my sansa clip+. Writing about ogg vorbis as if it is a historical format is silly. Sure, it wasn't adopted by streamers, but everything on Bandcamp (for example) is available as ogg/vorbis.

Nursie 3y ago
I did have a little sansa clip+ with rockbox a few years back, great little machine. I think I thought of it more as a historical format because Xiph have said that Opus supersedes it. I mostly stopped caring because of streaming some years ago now. I have my 'old' collection as a mix of mp3 and some ogg vorbis, dating from before the streaming era. These days I buy some CDs from bands I want to support, but listen to everything by streaming. I get the whole "<Streamer of choice> pays nothing to the artists!" argument. OTOH most the stuff I stream I also own, I'm just using streaming services to save me the hassle of ripping and hosting somewhere for access by all my devices.
- wwalexander 3y ago
  Just FYI, Apple Music supports automatic iCloud syncing of your personal music files that you drag into your library. Most of what I listen to is on streaming, but I can have non-streaming music, bootlegs, vinyl rips, Bandcamp purchases, and music only available on SoundCloud or YouTube (via yt-dlp) seamlessly alongside the streaming stuff. I’ve tried to explain how limiting any other streaming service is to friends, but I’ve mostly been met with blank stares at the mere concept of wanting to listen to off-streaming music or even where one would come across actual music files these days.
  - Nursie 3y ago
    That's pretty cool, especially as my collection has a bunch of 90s-00s goth and indie bits and pieces which just aren't present on the streaming services. This was something google play music was supposed to do as well, though that's dead now!

ReactiveJelly 3y ago

Uh, Firefox? Chromium? Did everyone else but me give up on Vorbis? It works great. Opus is nicer for bitrate but for a long time Vorbis used way less CPU to decode than Opus. All my music is Vorbis, Opus, or ripped m4as, and browsers take it all fine. The first version of WebM actually used Vorbis. It's the newer ones that are Opus.