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They don't really care as long as the games work. With Nvidia, AMD, and MS pushing, most new releases will probably have an ARM release, and older games can ru
by brucethemoose2 3y ago
They don't really care as long as the games work.
With Nvidia, AMD, and MS pushing, most new releases will probably have an ARM release, and older games can run with translation. The main problematic niche is older releases that are very CPU bound (like some sim games).
- majormajor 3y agoOlder games are often already flaky on the current versions of the platforms they were first made for, there's no great easy business in taking legacy PC games and fixing them to be well emulated/translated.
- brucethemoose2 3y agoWell if you go far back enough (like games that need DirectX8 or games that don't work on W10), the compatibility layers get really good, and overhead doesn't matter at all because they run at a billion fps.
- anthk 3y agoExcept for MS' Direct Draw implementation under Windows 8 and beyond, were your 1999 game runs like a dog under an i5, and you need a wrapper to translate DDraw to OpenGL.
- andrewstuart 3y ago>>> older games can run with translation Games are the most optimised code there is. Translation layers might cut it with vintage games but not with anything modern.
- mattnewton 3y agoseems to be working alright for apple. I can’t remember the last game I played that was bottlenecked on the cpu anyways, seems to always be the GPU
- gleenn 3y agoMy friends love the new Baldur's Gate game which now runs well on a little M1 laptop
- brucethemoose2 3y agoRimworld, Stellaris are big ones for me.
- jakobson14 3y agoFEX-Emu would like a word. The asahi people recently used FEX to run Portal on arm laptops. They JIT the x86 code to arm and their codegen is good enough to maintain most of native performance. Each new release brings them closer to closing the gap.
- Kamq 3y agoPortal is, like, 16 years old... Where's your cutoff for vintage?
- jakobson14 3y agoPortal 2 https://twitter.com/linaasahi/status/1638603205570613253 https://twitter.com/linaasahi/status/1638603205570613253 Portal 2 is demanding enough of a real-time FPS to demonstrate the principle and FEX is only becoming more optimized. It won't be long until it's running AAA games on low settings.
- brucethemoose2 3y agoYeah, and it was relatively fast even back then.
- andrewstuart 3y agoHave you got a gamer teenager? I do. They seem to care a great deal about their hardware and gamer teenagers also seem to spend alot more time analysing hardware and milliseconds performance advantages than anyone else. They literally care about mouse latency in milliseconds. They spend a huge amount of time on YouTube and online forums talking gaming hardware. If the word on the street is that ARM is milliseconds slower than Intel then they won't buy it. There's lots of huge YouTube channels that do nothing but measure game performance on various hardware.
- Certhas 3y agoYet the Steamdeck is selling great.... Gaming is no longer dominated by affluent teenagers. At least not to the degree it once was.
- alpaca128 3y agoAnd yet even dedicated gaming keyboards often have 50ms latency or more internally, and the last YT video I've seen on "system latency" actually didn't look at any latencies and just measured frame render times. I don't know of a single channel that does actual keyboard-to-screen latency measurements. The gaming community may care about numbers but I don't know if most actually know what those numbers say.
- brucethemoose2 3y agoYeah, there is a ton of fud in the tech YT channels.