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R&D is already baked into the final price of everything we buy so that has no argument. And the bullet proof glass thing I shouldn't even respond to because of

R&D is already baked into the final price of everything we buy so that has no argument. And the bullet proof glass thing I shouldn't even respond to because of the ridiculous extreme you've had to go to, trying to argue against me saying the companies should play it safe, but I'll reply this one time. I'm not asking the car company to protect me from an assassin's bullets. That is not something they control. I'm asking them to "play it safe" when developing components for the car so the car doesn't kill me while I'm in the car. They are responsible for their domain and are not producing armored vehicles for war time. So ridiculous lol

shiroiuma 3y ago
If you live in the US, getting shot while driving (or at school, or at work) at is something that happens from time to time, so if you value safety, you really do need armor and bullet-resistant glass on your car to drive in America.
- wutwutwat 3y ago
  So edgy
  - shiroiuma 3y ago
    Are you denying that there's more guns than people in the US, or that tens of thousands of people are killed by guns there every year? Strange how Americans are so in denial of the war-like state of their country and daily life in it.
    - wutwutwat 3y ago
      Where did I deny anything? I called the comment edgy. I was stating my opinion regarding the edginess of the parent comment. My opinion, on the comment I replied to, was that it was edgy. That was my conclusion, regarding my opinion, on the topic of the parent comment. Strange how HNs assume what country others reside in and apply their opinions, projecting them even, onto anything possible, whether or not the thing they are applying them to is at all related to what they reply with, and how they like to put words into the mouths of others with absolutely zero context to be able to make such assumptions, and are in denial about the ignorant-like state of their psyche and daily life as an idiot.
ipaddr 3y ago
Your comment was nothing is too excessive. The truth is, everything has a level where we try to balance cost/safety. Having Mazda spend millions more puts the base stickier price up. It might be $100, $500, $5000, $50,000 $5,000,000. How much more are you willing to pay and if you really cared wouldn't you buy a Volvo over a Mazda?
- xctr94 3y ago
  This really isn’t helping. Cars are very safe at the moment, with the driver being the key factor in accidents. They are very safe at the current price point. GP was arguing we should keep fighting to keep them safe. That means we keep doing whatever it is we’re doing, which is making cars safe, at a reasonable cost.
  - kakwa_ 3y ago
    Are cars really that safe? I mean, safer relative to what they used to be, yes. But compared other modes of transportation, not so sure.
    - xctr94 3y ago
      I’m guessing it’s arguable, but in the top 25 causes of accidents (in the US), I only found 2 that are linked to the car itself. Cars themselves seem fairly safe.
      - kakwa_ 3y ago
        Indeed, in a car accident, the car itself is rarely to blame. But that was not my point. At the end of the day, no matter how well it's built, a car is a several tons lump of steel launched at significant speed. It's an inherently deadly machine. Having a lapse of attention while driving a car? you might easily cause a someone to die. Having the same lapse on a bike? you might cause some broken bones. Having the same lapse while walking? you are good for some "Oh... I'm sorry".
    - wutwutwat 3y ago

shiroiuma 3y ago

If you live in the US, getting shot while driving (or at school, or at work) at is something that happens from time to time, so if you value safety, you really do need armor and bullet-resistant glass on your car to drive in America.

wutwutwat 3y ago
So edgy
- shiroiuma 3y ago
  Are you denying that there's more guns than people in the US, or that tens of thousands of people are killed by guns there every year? Strange how Americans are so in denial of the war-like state of their country and daily life in it.
  - wutwutwat 3y ago
    Where did I deny anything? I called the comment edgy. I was stating my opinion regarding the edginess of the parent comment. My opinion, on the comment I replied to, was that it was edgy. That was my conclusion, regarding my opinion, on the topic of the parent comment. Strange how HNs assume what country others reside in and apply their opinions, projecting them even, onto anything possible, whether or not the thing they are applying them to is at all related to what they reply with, and how they like to put words into the mouths of others with absolutely zero context to be able to make such assumptions, and are in denial about the ignorant-like state of their psyche and daily life as an idiot.

ipaddr 3y ago

Your comment was nothing is too excessive. The truth is, everything has a level where we try to balance cost/safety. Having Mazda spend millions more puts the base stickier price up. It might be $100, $500, $5000, $50,000 $5,000,000. How much more are you willing to pay and if you really cared wouldn't you buy a Volvo over a Mazda?

xctr94 3y ago
This really isn’t helping. Cars are very safe at the moment, with the driver being the key factor in accidents. They are very safe at the current price point. GP was arguing we should keep fighting to keep them safe. That means we keep doing whatever it is we’re doing, which is making cars safe, at a reasonable cost.
- kakwa_ 3y ago
  Are cars really that safe? I mean, safer relative to what they used to be, yes. But compared other modes of transportation, not so sure.
  - xctr94 3y ago
    I’m guessing it’s arguable, but in the top 25 causes of accidents (in the US), I only found 2 that are linked to the car itself. Cars themselves seem fairly safe.
    - kakwa_ 3y ago
      Indeed, in a car accident, the car itself is rarely to blame. But that was not my point. At the end of the day, no matter how well it's built, a car is a several tons lump of steel launched at significant speed. It's an inherently deadly machine. Having a lapse of attention while driving a car? you might easily cause a someone to die. Having the same lapse on a bike? you might cause some broken bones. Having the same lapse while walking? you are good for some "Oh... I'm sorry".
  - wutwutwat 3y ago