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Syria, Yemen, Crimea, Darfur, Rwanda...we throw countries to the wolves all the time. In many cases the USA IS the wolf. I think the USA killed half a mil inno

Syria, Yemen, Crimea, Darfur, Rwanda...we throw countries to the wolves all the time. In many cases the USA IS the wolf. I think the USA killed half a mil innocent civilians in Iraq part 1 and 2? The people in charge clearly arent hung up on noble intentions. Russia has the economy of Italy so its not even remotely a threat militarily or economically. They have nukes but no matter what happens in Ukraine it doesnt get rid of those. The US exports more oil than it imports so its not really oil fields. So I dont understand the strategic interest of Ukraine. I think our tax money could be used for something better. If its your view that the billions given to fight the Ukraine is an efficient use of resources thats cool. Ignore that part of my post. It wasnt meant to start a flame war, I am open to friendly discussion though

_kbh_ 3y ago
> So I dont understand the strategic interest of Ukraine. How is it not in Americas strategic interest to decimate its biggest military rival, whilst committing a small fraction of its yearly military budget?. At the same time it reduces Russian military exports and makes them look incredibly weak. It also helps defend democracy in Eastern Europe.
- strangesmells02 3y ago
  > biggest military rival Russia has the economy the size of Italy. Three American states have bigger economies than Russia. Were more advanced than them on every level technologically economically militarily. The only thing they have is nukes which they'll still have no matter how Ukraine turns out. We would wipe the floor with them in a head on military conflict. > defend democracy That's been the propaganda reason for previous wars...
  - _kbh_ 3y ago
    > Russia has the economy the size of Italy. Three American states have bigger economies than Russia. Were more advanced than them on every level technologically economically militarily. The only thing they have is nukes which they'll still have no matter how Ukraine turns out. That doesn't mean they aren't a military rival, Russias been building up there military stocks for decades, and inherited huge stockpiles as the successor state to the USSR. That stockpile pile is being so quickly decimated that Russia is starting to dig into there stockpiles of tanks that are 60+ years old. > That's been the propaganda reason for previous wars... In what way is helping a country defend itself from a brutal imperialistic invasion not helping defend democracy?.
    - strangesmells02 3y ago
      > helping a country defend itself from a brutal imperialistic invasion not helping defend democracy?. It's not anything that I'm willing to work a few extra hours a week to pay for.
      - _kbh_ 3y ago
        That kind of attitude and appeasement is exactly what lead us to WW2.
        strangesmells02 3y ago
        World wars are over. Countries have Nukes now.

_kbh_ 3y ago

> So I dont understand the strategic interest of Ukraine. How is it not in Americas strategic interest to decimate its biggest military rival, whilst committing a small fraction of its yearly military budget?. At the same time it reduces Russian military exports and makes them look incredibly weak. It also helps defend democracy in Eastern Europe.

strangesmells02 3y ago
> biggest military rival Russia has the economy the size of Italy. Three American states have bigger economies than Russia. Were more advanced than them on every level technologically economically militarily. The only thing they have is nukes which they'll still have no matter how Ukraine turns out. We would wipe the floor with them in a head on military conflict. > defend democracy That's been the propaganda reason for previous wars...
- _kbh_ 3y ago
  > Russia has the economy the size of Italy. Three American states have bigger economies than Russia. Were more advanced than them on every level technologically economically militarily. The only thing they have is nukes which they'll still have no matter how Ukraine turns out. That doesn't mean they aren't a military rival, Russias been building up there military stocks for decades, and inherited huge stockpiles as the successor state to the USSR. That stockpile pile is being so quickly decimated that Russia is starting to dig into there stockpiles of tanks that are 60+ years old. > That's been the propaganda reason for previous wars... In what way is helping a country defend itself from a brutal imperialistic invasion not helping defend democracy?.
  - strangesmells02 3y ago
    > helping a country defend itself from a brutal imperialistic invasion not helping defend democracy?. It's not anything that I'm willing to work a few extra hours a week to pay for.
    - _kbh_ 3y ago
      That kind of attitude and appeasement is exactly what lead us to WW2.
      - strangesmells02 3y ago
        World wars are over. Countries have Nukes now.