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We knew this was coming - there’s no other reason Musk would have pivoted so hard into Republican politics if he wasn’t looking for allies to push back on inves

We knew this was coming - there’s no other reason Musk would have pivoted so hard into Republican politics if he wasn’t looking for allies to push back on investigations

pizzafeelsright 3y ago
Could there be any other explanation?
- gumballindie 3y ago
  Insanity.
- colechristensen 3y ago
  Sleep deprivation, excessive attention, too much success. Too much validation does weird things to people.
- pcbro141 3y ago
  Could be he actually strongly believes in those ideologies, like millions of other people do.
  - constantly 3y ago
    For better or worse, Elon seems to be an extremely smart person. Notably I’m not a fan and purchased a Rivian over a Tesla due to his antics, in addition to signing out of Twitter and not using it for months.
    - junofan 3y ago
      You bought an 8500 lbs pickup truck over some tweets?
      - jacquesm 3y ago
        No, over principles.
        MostlyStable 3y ago
        Those principles apparently don't include very strong environmental beliefs because there is absolutely no weigh (see what I did there) that the Rivian, which actually weighs ~7500 lbs, about 1.5x the Tesla X, the heaviest Tesla vehicle, is not significantly worse for the environment both in a one off (producing all the extra material that makes up those nearly 2400 lbs) and in an ongoing manner (moving those extra 2400 lbs takes more energy, which requires more of everything in the energy pipeline). Presumably, if they were considering a Tesla at all, they didn't actually need a large pickup. So, to spite Elon over some political beliefs, he produced several extra tons of CO2 and is going to be emitting more CO2 on an ongoing basis, even if his energy source is 100% renewable (unlikely) as even wind and solar still (and for the forseeable future) have non-zero CO2 emissions due to mining and production of materials. I understand why people don't like Elon. He's pretty unlikeable, even if you don't disagree with his politics. I just dont' understand why they let it influecne their purchasing decisions.
        constantly 3y ago
        SUV. Rivian makes more than a pickup. (:
        jacquesm 3y ago
        Why this focus on the weight of the vehicle? It weighs what it weighs, just like a Tesla SUV or Cybertruck - if and when they are delivered - will weigh what it weighs. People factor in all kinds of stuff when they make their purchasing decisions including whether or not they want their funds to go towards subsidizing someone they'd rather not see gain more power. That's a principled decision and it should be applauded. That they could have chosen no vehicle or a non-pickup/non-SUV isn't part of this discussion, the decision was 'Tesla or something else' and it went to 'something else'.
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    - bigiain 3y ago
      https://mastodon.social/@rodhilton/109572674700288958 https://mastodon.social/@rodhilton/109572674700288958 "He talked about electric cars. I don't know anything about cars, so when people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius. Then he talked about rockets. I don't know anything about rockets, so when people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius. Now he talks about software. I happen to know a lot about software & Elon Musk is saying the stupidest shit I've ever heard anyone say, so when people say he's a genius I figure I should stay the hell away from his cars and rockets."
      - mcpackieh 3y ago
        Cute. Except SpaceX's rockets are demonstrably the most advanced in the world. (Hint: Musk didn't program them himself.)
        nickik 3y ago
        Musk is the only person to get shit for not doing literally everything by hand himself. People are like 'sure but he didn't design, build, program and launch the rockets by themselves' therefore he is pointless any even a brick could have done his job. Strange world we life in.
- dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago
  The GP post is a bit simplistic, but it's roughly right. Trump inspired politics is about personal exceptionalism for the very rich, reassigning blame to others, especially the bureaucracy, but also anyone who disagrees, objects or regulates, breezily brushing off any sense of accountability and treating people with less power or privilege poorly, often to the point of cruelty.
  - rsynnott 3y ago
    Trump hardly invented this; in particular it's more or less status quo in most less developed countries (and indeed reducing it is normally an important milestone in becoming a developed country). He was certainly unusually _blatant_ about it, though.
- jackmott42 3y ago
  He had a kid come out as trans, and a girlfriend leave him for a trans person right before he made this shift as well.
- Animats 3y ago
  Drugs? Before Musk was first seen smoking pot, he seemed to be sane. It's been downhill since then. Now he says he's using ketamine and may be bipolar.[1] [1] https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/08/28/elon-musks-shadow-rule https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/08/28/elon-musks-sha...
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We knew this was coming - there’s no other reason Musk would have pivoted so hard into Republican politics if he wasn’t looking for allies to push back on investigations

pizzafeelsright 3y ago

Could there be any other explanation?

gumballindie 3y ago
Insanity.
colechristensen 3y ago
Sleep deprivation, excessive attention, too much success. Too much validation does weird things to people.
pcbro141 3y ago
Could be he actually strongly believes in those ideologies, like millions of other people do.
- constantly 3y ago
  For better or worse, Elon seems to be an extremely smart person. Notably I’m not a fan and purchased a Rivian over a Tesla due to his antics, in addition to signing out of Twitter and not using it for months.
  - junofan 3y ago
    You bought an 8500 lbs pickup truck over some tweets?
    - jacquesm 3y ago
      No, over principles.
      - MostlyStable 3y ago
        Those principles apparently don't include very strong environmental beliefs because there is absolutely no weigh (see what I did there) that the Rivian, which actually weighs ~7500 lbs, about 1.5x the Tesla X, the heaviest Tesla vehicle, is not significantly worse for the environment both in a one off (producing all the extra material that makes up those nearly 2400 lbs) and in an ongoing manner (moving those extra 2400 lbs takes more energy, which requires more of everything in the energy pipeline). Presumably, if they were considering a Tesla at all, they didn't actually need a large pickup. So, to spite Elon over some political beliefs, he produced several extra tons of CO2 and is going to be emitting more CO2 on an ongoing basis, even if his energy source is 100% renewable (unlikely) as even wind and solar still (and for the forseeable future) have non-zero CO2 emissions due to mining and production of materials. I understand why people don't like Elon. He's pretty unlikeable, even if you don't disagree with his politics. I just dont' understand why they let it influecne their purchasing decisions.
        constantly 3y ago
        SUV. Rivian makes more than a pickup. (:
        jacquesm 3y ago
        Why this focus on the weight of the vehicle? It weighs what it weighs, just like a Tesla SUV or Cybertruck - if and when they are delivered - will weigh what it weighs. People factor in all kinds of stuff when they make their purchasing decisions including whether or not they want their funds to go towards subsidizing someone they'd rather not see gain more power. That's a principled decision and it should be applauded. That they could have chosen no vehicle or a non-pickup/non-SUV isn't part of this discussion, the decision was 'Tesla or something else' and it went to 'something else'.
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  - bigiain 3y ago
    https://mastodon.social/@rodhilton/109572674700288958 https://mastodon.social/@rodhilton/109572674700288958 "He talked about electric cars. I don't know anything about cars, so when people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius. Then he talked about rockets. I don't know anything about rockets, so when people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius. Now he talks about software. I happen to know a lot about software & Elon Musk is saying the stupidest shit I've ever heard anyone say, so when people say he's a genius I figure I should stay the hell away from his cars and rockets."
    - mcpackieh 3y ago
      Cute. Except SpaceX's rockets are demonstrably the most advanced in the world. (Hint: Musk didn't program them himself.)
      - nickik 3y ago
        Musk is the only person to get shit for not doing literally everything by hand himself. People are like 'sure but he didn't design, build, program and launch the rockets by themselves' therefore he is pointless any even a brick could have done his job. Strange world we life in.
dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago
The GP post is a bit simplistic, but it's roughly right. Trump inspired politics is about personal exceptionalism for the very rich, reassigning blame to others, especially the bureaucracy, but also anyone who disagrees, objects or regulates, breezily brushing off any sense of accountability and treating people with less power or privilege poorly, often to the point of cruelty.
- rsynnott 3y ago
  Trump hardly invented this; in particular it's more or less status quo in most less developed countries (and indeed reducing it is normally an important milestone in becoming a developed country). He was certainly unusually _blatant_ about it, though.
jackmott42 3y ago
He had a kid come out as trans, and a girlfriend leave him for a trans person right before he made this shift as well.
Animats 3y ago
Drugs? Before Musk was first seen smoking pot, he seemed to be sane. It's been downhill since then. Now he says he's using ketamine and may be bipolar.[1] [1] https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/08/28/elon-musks-shadow-rule https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/08/28/elon-musks-sha...

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