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It's a terrible, interesting time we are leaving our collective children and grandchildren. There will have to be a mass migration, where possible, since so man

It's a terrible, interesting time we are leaving our collective children and grandchildren. There will have to be a mass migration, where possible, since so many people live or work within that zone of sea water rise. They also need to adjust this map viewer thing to go to 20 feet. https://coast.noaa.gov/slr/ https://coast.noaa.gov/slr/

monkeycantype 3y ago
my hometown is so low the contour maps have no contour lines on them. I've recently heard neighbours chatting about not being able to afford flood insurance. I have friends who still believe climate change is an academic ploy for funding liberal universities - given our barely higher than high tide elevation, I understand the longing in their denial. Jacked premiums are the first event I've encountered that moves acknowledgement/denial of global warming from a lifestyle/personal identity choice into unignorable.
Podgajski 3y ago
The focus on sea level rise is a huge mistake. We need to be focusing on what this is going to do in terms of food production. People will be more alarmed from starvation than having to move away from the coast.
- stevenwoo 3y ago
  It should be talked about but I do not think it matters since the fact of human influenced climate change happening has been politicized so a large percentage of people have as a matter of their political identity need to deny it and stop any effort to mitigate it, so they won't change their behavior or voting habits even on the point of it directly make them un-housed (this is from listening to interviews with people who got flooded out of their homes from last hurricane to hit Florida) or hungry. It's a long term problem in our short term focused society. So far the only free market reaction is home insurance being set much higher or cut off in Florida for extreme weather risk and California for fire risk. We in the USA probably won't do anything drastic until things get very dire directly for tens of millions of people in the USA or maybe tens of millions of people to die, since we have already shown to be okay with approximately a million excess deaths from COVID-19 so far. Humanity got our act together on CFC's and the ozone layer hole but fossil fuels has so many vested interests it's a hard nut to crack.

monkeycantype 3y ago

my hometown is so low the contour maps have no contour lines on them. I've recently heard neighbours chatting about not being able to afford flood insurance. I have friends who still believe climate change is an academic ploy for funding liberal universities - given our barely higher than high tide elevation, I understand the longing in their denial. Jacked premiums are the first event I've encountered that moves acknowledgement/denial of global warming from a lifestyle/personal identity choice into unignorable.

Podgajski 3y ago

The focus on sea level rise is a huge mistake. We need to be focusing on what this is going to do in terms of food production. People will be more alarmed from starvation than having to move away from the coast.

stevenwoo 3y ago
It should be talked about but I do not think it matters since the fact of human influenced climate change happening has been politicized so a large percentage of people have as a matter of their political identity need to deny it and stop any effort to mitigate it, so they won't change their behavior or voting habits even on the point of it directly make them un-housed (this is from listening to interviews with people who got flooded out of their homes from last hurricane to hit Florida) or hungry. It's a long term problem in our short term focused society. So far the only free market reaction is home insurance being set much higher or cut off in Florida for extreme weather risk and California for fire risk. We in the USA probably won't do anything drastic until things get very dire directly for tens of millions of people in the USA or maybe tens of millions of people to die, since we have already shown to be okay with approximately a million excess deaths from COVID-19 so far. Humanity got our act together on CFC's and the ozone layer hole but fossil fuels has so many vested interests it's a hard nut to crack.