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I don't know why you'd be railing against the company here for acting in it's best interest (exactly as you'd expect) rather than the state for giving away mone

I don't know why you'd be railing against the company here for acting in it's best interest (exactly as you'd expect) rather than the state for giving away money with no strings attached. A private business sure as hell wouldn't be so foolish as to sign such a contract.

dd36 3y ago
It is in a company’s best interest to make sure corruption is legal?
dvdkon 3y ago
I think you misread the parent comment, I'd say they are blaming the government for not covering their "investments" legally, same as you.
bigstrat2003 3y ago
One can blame both parties. It was foolish (or corrupt, take your pick I guess) for the government to give out money without formal strings attached. It is unethical for the companies to take that money knowing it's intended for $thing, without ever intending to do $thing. Neither is good.
- parineum 3y ago
  This is a classic example of the scorpion and the frog though. The government is ostensibly giving them money and saying, "We hope you choose to do the thing we want with this money but you don't have to, no pressure." Exactly what you'd expect happened, they took the money and did nothing. I honestly have a hard time finding that nearly as unethical as the government being incredibly irresponsible with our money, either through naivety or corruption.
  - bigstrat2003 3y ago
    I don't understand how you can think the government is the more unethical party here. Should they do better? Yes. But in the scorpion and the frog story, the scorpion is the bad guy. You don't get to go "sorry it's just how I am bro" after you take advantage of someone.
    - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
      > don't understand how you can think the government is the more unethical party here They aren’t saying that. They’re saying the ethics are functionally irrelevant. It’s not dastardly enough to provoke a standard. It’s just monumentally stupid on the government’s part.
Fauntleroy 3y ago
It's not mandatory to lick the corporate boots stepping on us, you know.
vineyardmike 3y ago
There’s a real physical human being making that decision. Corporations aren’t amorphous blobs. What a scum, to abuse the society they live in. Corporations exist to make a profit and that’s fine, but they don’t need to claw and steal every penny they can find. Why do we perpetuate this idea that the appropriate behaviors for an organization are these horribly antisocial actions.

dd36 3y ago

It is in a company’s best interest to make sure corruption is legal?

dvdkon 3y ago

I think you misread the parent comment, I'd say they are blaming the government for not covering their "investments" legally, same as you.

bigstrat2003 3y ago

One can blame both parties. It was foolish (or corrupt, take your pick I guess) for the government to give out money without formal strings attached. It is unethical for the companies to take that money knowing it's intended for $thing, without ever intending to do $thing. Neither is good.

parineum 3y ago
This is a classic example of the scorpion and the frog though. The government is ostensibly giving them money and saying, "We hope you choose to do the thing we want with this money but you don't have to, no pressure." Exactly what you'd expect happened, they took the money and did nothing. I honestly have a hard time finding that nearly as unethical as the government being incredibly irresponsible with our money, either through naivety or corruption.
- bigstrat2003 3y ago
  I don't understand how you can think the government is the more unethical party here. Should they do better? Yes. But in the scorpion and the frog story, the scorpion is the bad guy. You don't get to go "sorry it's just how I am bro" after you take advantage of someone.
  - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
    > don't understand how you can think the government is the more unethical party here They aren’t saying that. They’re saying the ethics are functionally irrelevant. It’s not dastardly enough to provoke a standard. It’s just monumentally stupid on the government’s part.

Fauntleroy 3y ago

It's not mandatory to lick the corporate boots stepping on us, you know.

vineyardmike 3y ago

There’s a real physical human being making that decision. Corporations aren’t amorphous blobs. What a scum, to abuse the society they live in. Corporations exist to make a profit and that’s fine, but they don’t need to claw and steal every penny they can find. Why do we perpetuate this idea that the appropriate behaviors for an organization are these horribly antisocial actions.