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Are these easy to cheat? I've found that most diagnoses are easy to produce by first reading the DSM-V criteria and then matching them appropriately to question

Are these easy to cheat? I've found that most diagnoses are easy to produce by first reading the DSM-V criteria and then matching them appropriately to questions asked by doctors. In this case, however, you're trying to avoid diagnosis, which is a slightly different game and seems harder to fake. These appear to be what they're looking for https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14/chapter-I/subchapter-D/part-67/subpart-B/section-67.107 https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-14/chapter-I/subchapter-D... If you're getting your Adderall not from prescription, they're not going to know till you tell them, but I wonder if they try anything interesting to find you out. I know at least one person who flew but used Adderall daily for work which means that this sort of thing isn't super rigorous.

bensecure 3y ago
> you're trying to avoid diagnosis, which is a slightly different game and seems harder to fake. Even easier. Just answer ever question with what's "normal". If you're shooting for a particular diagnosis, or even a diagnosis in general, you have to actually know what the symptoms are, or else the doctor will notice something odd. If you want no diagnosis, you just have to have a general idea of what most people are like.
- renewiltord 3y ago
  Fair enough. I've had to pass immigration and customs before (like everyone) so I suppose the advice of "be cool; act normal" is something everyone already does, so it can't be too hard.
tpmx 3y ago
I suppose the root cause is that psychology is still mostly a pseudo science.
JumpCrisscross 3y ago
> If you're getting your Adderall not from prescription, they're not going to know Airline pilots are subjected to a lot of drug tests. The upshot is that person won’t be taking the Adderall. Even if they need it.
- renewiltord 3y ago
  Interestingly: https://x.com/EvanWatsonNews/status/1716868497815580936?s=20 https://x.com/EvanWatsonNews/status/1716868497815580936?s=20 > The off-duty pilot who attempted to cut off a plane’s engines mid-flight told an officer it was his first time using psychedelic mushrooms, per the federal complaint

bensecure 3y ago

> you're trying to avoid diagnosis, which is a slightly different game and seems harder to fake. Even easier. Just answer ever question with what's "normal". If you're shooting for a particular diagnosis, or even a diagnosis in general, you have to actually know what the symptoms are, or else the doctor will notice something odd. If you want no diagnosis, you just have to have a general idea of what most people are like.

renewiltord 3y ago
Fair enough. I've had to pass immigration and customs before (like everyone) so I suppose the advice of "be cool; act normal" is something everyone already does, so it can't be too hard.

tpmx 3y ago

I suppose the root cause is that psychology is still mostly a pseudo science.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago

> If you're getting your Adderall not from prescription, they're not going to know Airline pilots are subjected to a lot of drug tests. The upshot is that person won’t be taking the Adderall. Even if they need it.

renewiltord 3y ago
Interestingly: https://x.com/EvanWatsonNews/status/1716868497815580936?s=20 https://x.com/EvanWatsonNews/status/1716868497815580936?s=20 > The off-duty pilot who attempted to cut off a plane’s engines mid-flight told an officer it was his first time using psychedelic mushrooms, per the federal complaint