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I was on this flight, I sat in the back and did not witness the initial events however I heard the pilot say we were diverting the flight to PDX and shortly aft

I was on this flight, I sat in the back and did not witness the initial events however I heard the pilot say we were diverting the flight to PDX and shortly after the jumpseat pilot was led to back of the plane. I thought he was having a heart attack, or possibly diabetic because the flight attendants were telling him it was "going to be okay" and to "take deep breaths", the guy was acting scared and non-violent. The flight attendant later announced it was a "medical emergency" which I thought it was weird because they never asked if there was a doctor on board. The pilot later explained that there was a "disturbance in the cockpit and we will likely board a new plane". Finally after we landed he was escorted by police.

jacquesm 3y ago
Wow. That must have been super unnerving and retrospectively a lot more scary than you must have thought at the moment.
- yadaeno 3y ago
  Honestly I kind of feel bad for the guy. He didn’t put up much of a fight and he sounded very shocked and sad at what he did. Now his career is over and as he’s a plane hijacker as far as the law is concerned. If he really wanted to crash the plane I imagine he would have succeeded.
  - lamontcg 3y ago
    It kinda makes more sense to me that he was taking something like Ambien and had an episode.
    - jacquesm 3y ago
      Apparently he was experimenting with mushrooms and had a psychosis. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/24/us/alaska-airlines-off-duty-pilot-arraignment.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/24/us/alaska-airlines-off-du...
      - kayfox 3y ago
        The mushroom thing was between 6 months ago and now, its not clear from the affidavit when it was.
        jacquesm 3y ago
        In the article it says 48 hours after consumption but it isn't quite a hard statement on when he took it.
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    I've seen two spur-of-the-moment suicides from up close and it's devastating to everybody involved but these did not put anybody else at risk. But from watching the aftermath it's clear to me that the people involved never really thought about the effect on others much, they just acted. This is indeed super sad. And I get your rationalization but the list of such instances that did succeed is rather longer than I'm comfortable with and the only difference seems to be that those people succeeded where this guy did not. It may have been a very short moment. Scary stuff. You realize when driving that not only am I responsible for the lives of those in my vehicle and the people on foot, on bikes and mopeds and in and on the other vehicles I interact with in traffic whilst at the same time they are responsible for mine. And I've wondered more than once how many accidents are actually spur of the moment suicides.
mrtksn 3y ago
I'm glad it was handled well, it could have been a tragedy(an unstable person in the cockpit can do a lot of damage, I imagine). Was anyone, filming? I can't wait to see it as another example of "shapeshifting" on my "For you" tab in Twitter.
- jjtheblunt 3y ago
  What does that mean?
  - c420 3y ago
    I assume the "they aren't real" lady (video in the link) but there's been so many crazy/high passenger incidents post pandemic I can't be sure: https://www.complex.com/life/a/jose-martinez/woman-viral-video-not-real-airplane-outburst-identified https://www.complex.com/life/a/jose-martinez/woman-viral-vid...
    - jacquesm 3y ago
      'They Live' vibes... she's scared out of her wits. It isn't funny to see people derail like that.
      - jjtheblunt 3y ago
        “They Live” as in the movie from 30ish years ago?
        jacquesm 3y ago
        Yes, her response is as if she's seen something like the creatures from that movie. I wonder what really happened and why she didn't calm down. For instance, it could be a hallucination, I've had some pretty weird hallucinations myself in spite of never doing drugs (auditory), they were totally believable and yet impossible and I'm rational enough to realize what is a hallucination and what isn't but if it is visual then it may be a lot harder to get a grip on yourself.
averageRoyalty 3y ago
That's super interesting, thanks for sharing! I presume you did end up boarding a new plane with a new crew? How long did that take?
- yadaeno 3y ago
  About 45 mins. New crew and plane but kept our same seats.
  - averageRoyalty 3y ago
    That's surprisingly fast! Well done to the airline.
oldbbsnickname 3y ago
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jacquesm 3y ago

Wow. That must have been super unnerving and retrospectively a lot more scary than you must have thought at the moment.

yadaeno 3y ago
Honestly I kind of feel bad for the guy. He didn’t put up much of a fight and he sounded very shocked and sad at what he did. Now his career is over and as he’s a plane hijacker as far as the law is concerned. If he really wanted to crash the plane I imagine he would have succeeded.
- lamontcg 3y ago
  It kinda makes more sense to me that he was taking something like Ambien and had an episode.
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    Apparently he was experimenting with mushrooms and had a psychosis. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/24/us/alaska-airlines-off-duty-pilot-arraignment.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/24/us/alaska-airlines-off-du...
    - kayfox 3y ago
      The mushroom thing was between 6 months ago and now, its not clear from the affidavit when it was.
      - jacquesm 3y ago
        In the article it says 48 hours after consumption but it isn't quite a hard statement on when he took it.
- jacquesm 3y ago
  I've seen two spur-of-the-moment suicides from up close and it's devastating to everybody involved but these did not put anybody else at risk. But from watching the aftermath it's clear to me that the people involved never really thought about the effect on others much, they just acted. This is indeed super sad. And I get your rationalization but the list of such instances that did succeed is rather longer than I'm comfortable with and the only difference seems to be that those people succeeded where this guy did not. It may have been a very short moment. Scary stuff. You realize when driving that not only am I responsible for the lives of those in my vehicle and the people on foot, on bikes and mopeds and in and on the other vehicles I interact with in traffic whilst at the same time they are responsible for mine. And I've wondered more than once how many accidents are actually spur of the moment suicides.

mrtksn 3y ago

I'm glad it was handled well, it could have been a tragedy(an unstable person in the cockpit can do a lot of damage, I imagine). Was anyone, filming? I can't wait to see it as another example of "shapeshifting" on my "For you" tab in Twitter.

jjtheblunt 3y ago
What does that mean?
- c420 3y ago
  I assume the "they aren't real" lady (video in the link) but there's been so many crazy/high passenger incidents post pandemic I can't be sure: https://www.complex.com/life/a/jose-martinez/woman-viral-video-not-real-airplane-outburst-identified https://www.complex.com/life/a/jose-martinez/woman-viral-vid...
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    'They Live' vibes... she's scared out of her wits. It isn't funny to see people derail like that.
    - jjtheblunt 3y ago
      “They Live” as in the movie from 30ish years ago?
      - jacquesm 3y ago
        Yes, her response is as if she's seen something like the creatures from that movie. I wonder what really happened and why she didn't calm down. For instance, it could be a hallucination, I've had some pretty weird hallucinations myself in spite of never doing drugs (auditory), they were totally believable and yet impossible and I'm rational enough to realize what is a hallucination and what isn't but if it is visual then it may be a lot harder to get a grip on yourself.

averageRoyalty 3y ago

That's super interesting, thanks for sharing! I presume you did end up boarding a new plane with a new crew? How long did that take?

yadaeno 3y ago
About 45 mins. New crew and plane but kept our same seats.
- averageRoyalty 3y ago
  That's surprisingly fast! Well done to the airline.

oldbbsnickname 3y ago

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