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You need to read the article before you comment. They include the source material: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/21/uk-government-keeping-files

by ipaddr 3y ago

You need to read the article before you comment. They include the source material: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/21/uk-government-keeping-files-on-teaching-assistants-and-librarians-internet-activity https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/21/uk-governme... What evidence are you using to tar and feather the guardian with your false conspiracy theories?

swarnie 3y ago
Ignoring using the Guardian as a source for now..... If any of us openly criticised our employer on social media what would we expect? A round of applause?
- southernplaces7 3y ago
  You must be rather dense. Flatly disregard a provided source that counters your claim of "conspiracy theories" and then compare something like this to employers responding to employee criticisms. The two things are categorically different. The state spying on and punishing private citizens (even if they're government employees) for their criticisms of its policies is far ahead in danger from corporate employee monitoring bullshit.
  - swarnie 3y ago
    When did i claim "conspiracy theories" ? Sorry i stopped reading after that because i think you've responded to the wrong person.
- worik 3y ago
  > If any of us openly criticised our employer on social media what would we expect? A round of applause? We do not expect our employers to start files on us. We do not expect them to do it when they are desperately short of cash and morale is low We expect them to acknowledge there are problems (there are) and show some humility
  - dylan604 3y ago
    >We do not expect I seem to have discovered the problem. Expect the worst, be surprised when it doesn't happen.
  - lazzurs 3y ago
    Low on cash. There’s a difference between not having the cash and just refusing to spend it on education.
colpabar 3y ago
I believe the point is that even suggesting that a western government is surveilling its dissenting citizens would get you labeled a conspiracy theorist nutjob. And with this revelation, we are now supposed to believe that this was the only instance of this happening, it's definitely not happening anywhere else, and you're still just a dangerous conspiracy theorist if you have trouble believing these institutions that lie over and over and over again about things like this until they get caught and aren't held accountable. It's tiring. It's a low effort comment for sure. But it's pretty spot on if you have ever expressed doubt in the mainstream narrative online.
varispeed 3y ago
I forgot to add /s

by ipaddr 3y ago

swarnie 3y ago

Ignoring using the Guardian as a source for now..... If any of us openly criticised our employer on social media what would we expect? A round of applause?

southernplaces7 3y ago
You must be rather dense. Flatly disregard a provided source that counters your claim of "conspiracy theories" and then compare something like this to employers responding to employee criticisms. The two things are categorically different. The state spying on and punishing private citizens (even if they're government employees) for their criticisms of its policies is far ahead in danger from corporate employee monitoring bullshit.
- swarnie 3y ago
  When did i claim "conspiracy theories" ? Sorry i stopped reading after that because i think you've responded to the wrong person.
worik 3y ago
> If any of us openly criticised our employer on social media what would we expect? A round of applause? We do not expect our employers to start files on us. We do not expect them to do it when they are desperately short of cash and morale is low We expect them to acknowledge there are problems (there are) and show some humility
- dylan604 3y ago
  >We do not expect I seem to have discovered the problem. Expect the worst, be surprised when it doesn't happen.
- lazzurs 3y ago
  Low on cash. There’s a difference between not having the cash and just refusing to spend it on education.

colpabar 3y ago

I believe the point is that even suggesting that a western government is surveilling its dissenting citizens would get you labeled a conspiracy theorist nutjob. And with this revelation, we are now supposed to believe that this was the only instance of this happening, it's definitely not happening anywhere else, and you're still just a dangerous conspiracy theorist if you have trouble believing these institutions that lie over and over and over again about things like this until they get caught and aren't held accountable. It's tiring. It's a low effort comment for sure. But it's pretty spot on if you have ever expressed doubt in the mainstream narrative online.

varispeed 3y ago

I forgot to add /s