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No, it’s how anyone that’s actually worked in an SMB / non F-1000 / non household name company talks. Most “regular” companies need to focus on getting features

No, it’s how anyone that’s actually worked in an SMB / non F-1000 / non household name company talks. Most “regular” companies need to focus on getting features out the door. I’m a software engineer, not an MBA.

uoaei 3y ago
You are not anything until you act as something. Acting like an MBA makes you virtually indistinguishable from one. I don't care what you studied, it's what you're doing (or not) with it.
- foooorsyth 3y ago
  Your entire stance is no true Scotsman with ad hominem. You realize almost every YC company operates in the way I described until they become entrenched in their domain, right? Do you think pre PMF companies are bickering about unit test coverage? If they are, they’ll fail
  - uoaei 3y ago
    It's really a basic point that I can call myself whatever I want, but if I walk and quack like a duck, I'm a duck. YC is a VC firm which is a very specific context that demands things like revenue and growth to be so prioritized as to be implicit and core features of the working ideology. That's not really a good model for software engineering when it comes to social benefit -- it prioritizes something else. It can demonstrate incidental social benefit but that's not actually an incentive that's built into the system that YC operates in and reflects internally. There are Scotsmen out there, they're just not part of this discussion. That doesn't make anything I said a "no true Scotsman" argument.
    - foooorsyth 3y ago
      Here's a repo for you with no test coverage and no auto-generated DI. They're using unsafe pointers all over the place, too! https://github.com/id-Software/DOOM https://github.com/id-Software/DOOM Shall I prepare the postage for the letter in which you'll call John Carmack an MBA? Should we send another to Chris Sawyer? I heard he didn't even write a formal design doc for Roller Coaster Tycoon!
      - uoaei 3y ago
        You've either intentionally cast my argument as something it's not or you need to read a little deeper before replying. Nowhere did I say sloppy code is the problem, what I said was justifying it in terms of profitability is the problem. There's a difference between cranking something out because you're excited to show it and rushing through an implementation because of this or that externally defined money-based KPI.

uoaei 3y ago

You are not anything until you act as something. Acting like an MBA makes you virtually indistinguishable from one. I don't care what you studied, it's what you're doing (or not) with it.

foooorsyth 3y ago
Your entire stance is no true Scotsman with ad hominem. You realize almost every YC company operates in the way I described until they become entrenched in their domain, right? Do you think pre PMF companies are bickering about unit test coverage? If they are, they’ll fail
- uoaei 3y ago
  It's really a basic point that I can call myself whatever I want, but if I walk and quack like a duck, I'm a duck. YC is a VC firm which is a very specific context that demands things like revenue and growth to be so prioritized as to be implicit and core features of the working ideology. That's not really a good model for software engineering when it comes to social benefit -- it prioritizes something else. It can demonstrate incidental social benefit but that's not actually an incentive that's built into the system that YC operates in and reflects internally. There are Scotsmen out there, they're just not part of this discussion. That doesn't make anything I said a "no true Scotsman" argument.
  - foooorsyth 3y ago
    Here's a repo for you with no test coverage and no auto-generated DI. They're using unsafe pointers all over the place, too! https://github.com/id-Software/DOOM https://github.com/id-Software/DOOM Shall I prepare the postage for the letter in which you'll call John Carmack an MBA? Should we send another to Chris Sawyer? I heard he didn't even write a formal design doc for Roller Coaster Tycoon!
    - uoaei 3y ago
      You've either intentionally cast my argument as something it's not or you need to read a little deeper before replying. Nowhere did I say sloppy code is the problem, what I said was justifying it in terms of profitability is the problem. There's a difference between cranking something out because you're excited to show it and rushing through an implementation because of this or that externally defined money-based KPI.