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I would agree with you that it is wrong. Just because someone disagrees with Israel, or calls Israel out for actions that it has committed, is not the same as t

I would agree with you that it is wrong. Just because someone disagrees with Israel, or calls Israel out for actions that it has committed, is not the same as terrorism or making a threat. It's a really fine line, and I think regrettably that it moves with the political climate.

alephnerd 3y ago
The issue is foreign commentators can do it in an unneccesarily divisive manner that causes blowback. Plenty of Israeli Arabs (eg. A few who directly report to me) have denounced Hamas on LinkedIn but also voiced public criticism to the heavy-handed response that the IDF is doing. Heck, several of the survivors from the Nova Music festival were saved by Bedouin nearby, and plenty of the ongoing shelling in the North is impacting Israeli Arabs. Heck, a Chechen/Circassian mosque was hit by a Hamas rocket. Western commentators are making it a black-and-white issue where you either support the Palestinian cause or the Israeli cause with no middle. The 2nd/3rd/Nth generation Jewish and Arab diaspora have both been posting some vile comments about the other.
- colpabar 3y ago
  > Western commentators are making it a black-and-white issue where you either support the Palestinian cause or the Israeli cause with no middle. I think you are being too charitable. From what I have seen, it's "you either support the Israeli cause or you are a terrorist who hates freedom." All we need now is a war criminal republican president for democrats to loudly criticize yet support at every opportunity to invade a country that had nothing to do with the attacks and it'll be just like the early 2000s again.
  - alephnerd 3y ago
    It goes both ways. I've seen some toxic douchebags say that the only good Palestinian is a dead Palestinian. I've also had some douchebags PERSONALLY tell me "From river to sea, Palestine will be free" under the assumption that as a brown guy I'd sympathize. Everyone is in their own damn echo chamber and yelling across of each other. Assholes on sides need to get fucking slapped.
    - SauciestGNU 3y ago
      This is the problem though, you're equating the wish for an end to the occupation of Palestine with an explicit call for genocide. The two are not equivalent.
      - pauldenton 3y ago
        I don't know what you mean. The Palestinians want to kill Israelis and the Israelis want to kill the Palestinians. Expelling Jews from the river to the sea means all the territory that is currently Israel becoming no longer a Jewish state. Israel may very well deconstruct Gaza so it's no longer a state as well. Equal things at stake

alephnerd 3y ago

The issue is foreign commentators can do it in an unneccesarily divisive manner that causes blowback. Plenty of Israeli Arabs (eg. A few who directly report to me) have denounced Hamas on LinkedIn but also voiced public criticism to the heavy-handed response that the IDF is doing. Heck, several of the survivors from the Nova Music festival were saved by Bedouin nearby, and plenty of the ongoing shelling in the North is impacting Israeli Arabs. Heck, a Chechen/Circassian mosque was hit by a Hamas rocket. Western commentators are making it a black-and-white issue where you either support the Palestinian cause or the Israeli cause with no middle. The 2nd/3rd/Nth generation Jewish and Arab diaspora have both been posting some vile comments about the other.

colpabar 3y ago
> Western commentators are making it a black-and-white issue where you either support the Palestinian cause or the Israeli cause with no middle. I think you are being too charitable. From what I have seen, it's "you either support the Israeli cause or you are a terrorist who hates freedom." All we need now is a war criminal republican president for democrats to loudly criticize yet support at every opportunity to invade a country that had nothing to do with the attacks and it'll be just like the early 2000s again.
- alephnerd 3y ago
  It goes both ways. I've seen some toxic douchebags say that the only good Palestinian is a dead Palestinian. I've also had some douchebags PERSONALLY tell me "From river to sea, Palestine will be free" under the assumption that as a brown guy I'd sympathize. Everyone is in their own damn echo chamber and yelling across of each other. Assholes on sides need to get fucking slapped.
  - SauciestGNU 3y ago
    This is the problem though, you're equating the wish for an end to the occupation of Palestine with an explicit call for genocide. The two are not equivalent.
    - pauldenton 3y ago
      I don't know what you mean. The Palestinians want to kill Israelis and the Israelis want to kill the Palestinians. Expelling Jews from the river to the sea means all the territory that is currently Israel becoming no longer a Jewish state. Israel may very well deconstruct Gaza so it's no longer a state as well. Equal things at stake