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I don't think they have VC money. I think the people building it just know what they're doing. Do you see anything that indicates this is a VC-funded project? I

I don't think they have VC money. I think the people building it just know what they're doing. Do you see anything that indicates this is a VC-funded project? It looks to me like they're only getting a little bit of money from Github Sponsors (https://github.com/sponsors/mswjs https://github.com/sponsors/mswjs).

sph 3y ago
That's a lot of time and effort, for people earning next to nothing, for an open-source library. I'm not saying it's bad they have a beautiful website to rival any small SaaS, but how is even possible they have the time and energy to spend on that, rather than on the code itself? What would Linux or GNOME or leftpad look like with a proportional amount of marketing effort? Last time I checked, testing libraries did not have custom iconset and a testimonial section to rival the Stripe homepage.
- CPLNTN 3y ago
  I don’t understand, your complaint is that the project is too well done?
- teaearlgraycold 3y ago
  A few things: 1. It's actually pretty easy to get a pretty site these days. The SaaS layout is so standardized you can just buy a template to get your React site up and running and looking professional for a couple hundred dollars and a few hours of work. The site overall definitely took more time than that. 2. This is a library for front-end developers. It's made by front-end developers who probably have some design skills of their own. That makes it easier for them than Linux's kernel hacker team to set up a nice website. 3. Is this just a matter of insecurity on your part? I'm sure you have plenty of dev skills but maybe they don't extend to UI and you don't like that this team can throw together a beautiful site for something that's merely a side-project?
- ngruhn 3y ago
  I think this is actually pretty common in the JavaScript ecosystem. Presumably, because contributors are very skilled in building websites and maybe also because users have higher expectations when it comes to presentation. I mean checkout https://vitest.dev/ https://vitest.dev/ https://jestjs.io/ https://jestjs.io/ https://webdriver.io/de/ https://webdriver.io/de/ https://playwright.dev/ https://playwright.dev/ (all testing related stuff).
  - codybontecou 3y ago
    I agree. Beautiful documentation helped me a lot early on when getting into the JS ecosystem.

sph 3y ago

That's a lot of time and effort, for people earning next to nothing, for an open-source library. I'm not saying it's bad they have a beautiful website to rival any small SaaS, but how is even possible they have the time and energy to spend on that, rather than on the code itself? What would Linux or GNOME or leftpad look like with a proportional amount of marketing effort? Last time I checked, testing libraries did not have custom iconset and a testimonial section to rival the Stripe homepage.

CPLNTN 3y ago
I don’t understand, your complaint is that the project is too well done?
teaearlgraycold 3y ago
A few things: 1. It's actually pretty easy to get a pretty site these days. The SaaS layout is so standardized you can just buy a template to get your React site up and running and looking professional for a couple hundred dollars and a few hours of work. The site overall definitely took more time than that. 2. This is a library for front-end developers. It's made by front-end developers who probably have some design skills of their own. That makes it easier for them than Linux's kernel hacker team to set up a nice website. 3. Is this just a matter of insecurity on your part? I'm sure you have plenty of dev skills but maybe they don't extend to UI and you don't like that this team can throw together a beautiful site for something that's merely a side-project?
ngruhn 3y ago
I think this is actually pretty common in the JavaScript ecosystem. Presumably, because contributors are very skilled in building websites and maybe also because users have higher expectations when it comes to presentation. I mean checkout https://vitest.dev/ https://vitest.dev/ https://jestjs.io/ https://jestjs.io/ https://webdriver.io/de/ https://webdriver.io/de/ https://playwright.dev/ https://playwright.dev/ (all testing related stuff).
- codybontecou 3y ago
  I agree. Beautiful documentation helped me a lot early on when getting into the JS ecosystem.