That's what I mean by foamer logic, most of that American passenger rail stuff went defunct a hundred years ago. Fresno has 20mph vegetable trains and now a 20

That's what I mean by foamer logic, most of that American passenger rail stuff went defunct a hundred years ago. Fresno has 20mph vegetable trains and now a 20 mile long HSR viaduct to "revitalize" (blight) their pathetic downtown. There's no money for all the tunneling they want to do. (Take a look at the EIRs.) The French came here and recommended a greenfield route, which is what they built in France, you can see the bypasses on google maps. They concluded that California is full of shit, and built HSR in Morocco instead.