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> People say this, but are there? Yes. Anyone who takes a moment to think through the numbers logically recognizses this. And the two replies that my comment h

> People say this, but are there? Yes. Anyone who takes a moment to think through the numbers logically recognizses this. And the two replies that my comment have gotten pouncing on me saying that, including yours, is the reason why it must be said. The thing about police is that it's one of those things where the routine interactions and police work, which is representative of the vast majority of what goes on, is boring and uneventful. There is no reason for it to ever make headlines. But it only takes one incident of corruption or one costly mistake and everyone is talking about it. That's a good thing, it needs to be addressed. But it really skews public perception and makes people think that that kind of stuff is way more commonplace than it actually is.

danaris 3y ago
Why, exactly, does it need to be said? We have a mountain of evidence showing that, even when there are good cops, the moment they cross paths with bad cops, the bad cops either convert them to their side or get them removed from the force. These are not marginalized people who need their stories told. These are members of a quasi-military group full of self-proclaimed neo-Nazis with effective legal immunity from murdering random citizens of our country, and, as another comment aptly noted, a significantly higher propensity for violence and unwillingness to accept that other people have a right to live—or do much of anything else, it often seems. Moreso if those "other people" are people of color, queer, disabled, or otherwise marginalized. "But there are lots of really good cops!" just screams of apologism and a desire to salve the egos of the poor mistreated fascists.
JohnFen 3y ago
I don't know. A cop who is exemplary in every way and yet remains silent about, turns a blind eye to, or defends bad cops on the force is not a good cop in my book.
- jghn 3y ago
  Exactly. And while I know many otherwise good people who are cops, not a single one of them will do more than pay lip service to "bad cops". For starters, their bar designating someone as a "bad cop" is always far too high.

danaris 3y ago

Why, exactly, does it need to be said? We have a mountain of evidence showing that, even when there are good cops, the moment they cross paths with bad cops, the bad cops either convert them to their side or get them removed from the force. These are not marginalized people who need their stories told. These are members of a quasi-military group full of self-proclaimed neo-Nazis with effective legal immunity from murdering random citizens of our country, and, as another comment aptly noted, a significantly higher propensity for violence and unwillingness to accept that other people have a right to live—or do much of anything else, it often seems. Moreso if those "other people" are people of color, queer, disabled, or otherwise marginalized. "But there are lots of really good cops!" just screams of apologism and a desire to salve the egos of the poor mistreated fascists.

JohnFen 3y ago

I don't know. A cop who is exemplary in every way and yet remains silent about, turns a blind eye to, or defends bad cops on the force is not a good cop in my book.

jghn 3y ago
Exactly. And while I know many otherwise good people who are cops, not a single one of them will do more than pay lip service to "bad cops". For starters, their bar designating someone as a "bad cop" is always far too high.