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There's a potential future where these discussions (about whether to work with AI or work against it) will be happening across ALL industries, not just in the x

There's a potential future where these discussions (about whether to work with AI or work against it) will be happening across ALL industries, not just in the x-rated one. We're seeing it here and in the graphic design industry right now because that's what the large majority of people are using AI for. But just like with photography, and just like with the internet, it's not going to stop there. In my personal opinion, this wave is coming EVEN IF AI ends up not being as perfect as people are currently envisioning it as. Because even if it's not perfect, it's convenient and that's already been proven thanks to the likes of ChatGPT and Midjourney. The AI Revolution is here, and, unfortunately, everyone will need to figure out their place in this new world.

dangus 3y ago
I read another article on HN where an illustrator was saying that if the tools evolve to be more designed for artists, they could be great for cutting down time-consuming aspects of illustration. I’m not an illustrator but I’m guessing things like coloring and shading are areas where AI could make quick work. We saw technological innovations like Disney’s Xerox machine technique that was used for 101 Dalmatians, and of course we saw computer animation basically decimate hand-drawn animation almost entirely. Even in areas where animation is hand drawn, it’s usually done so in a digital workflow. The people out there that are scared of AI and refuse to use it are making a mistake. It’s here. It’s not going to get less capable, it’s going to keep getting more capable. I think the average person should try to be an early adopter to have an advantage in our new world.
- iopq 3y ago
  Hell, it can give you a finished image
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Workaccount2 3y ago
What does it mean to "work with AI" in the context of the future or even near future? A symbolic job of checking it's outputs? Even if AI doesn't take your job, it almost certainly will take most of the value it has. I don't need a $175k dev when I can use a model and a $60k dev to do the same thing. Or on the graphics side, artists are a dime a dozen, I don't need the cream of the crop if they are just gonna be fixing up mangled AI hands.
- hotnfresh 3y ago
  > Even if AI doesn't take your job, it almost certainly will take most of the value it has. I don't need a $175k dev when I can use a model and a $60k dev to do the same thing. Current trends in writing & editing appear to be that you need a rare and expensive person to get the kind of whole-number multiplier out of AI tools that people initially expected. And it's still not a large whole number. Give the tools to someone who's not got exception taste and skill, and you're lucky if the multiplier's greater than 1 at all. [EDIT] Exception if your output is expected to be crap and you don't care about accuracy. It's a huge boon to spam of most forms, and astroturfing.
  - Workaccount2 3y ago
    I think it's a mistake to use current AI in current times as the status quo in ~5 years from now. AI will likely improve dramatically, as will the general persons ability to work with it. I wouldn't be one bit surprised if typewriter operators outpaced nascent word processor users in the beginning.
    - hotnfresh 3y ago
      > AI will likely improve dramatically, as will the general persons ability to work with it. I'm not so sure about ability to work with it. Middling Excel skills still make you a wizard able to do things nobody else can, in most offices (though not most tech offices). Hell, I've seen knowing how to use the Windows file explorer at a very low level of competence put a person in the top five percent by computer ability in an office. Within the last couple years. Most folks can barely use the tools we have, and aren't going to be able to get good output from anything like the current set of AI tools. The ones who can, won't be cheap, and may be hard to replace like-for-like—I think a lot of companies are going to settle on more, cheaper, more-interchangeable workers than replacing them with a few AI tool experts with hard-to-measure-or-quantify skills. The tools themselves need an added ability to reflect and distinguish reality from imagination and suited-to-task from unsuited-to-task, to get as-much better as they need to be to deliver what some are supposing they surely will, and AFAIK that's not the kind of thing we're going to get with "LLMs, but more and bigger" and related techniques, but will require some new breakthroughs.
dragonwriter 3y ago
> There's a potential future where these discussions (about whether to work with AI or work against it) will be happening across ALL industries, not just in the x-rated one. Uh, that’s not a potential future, its today. It's happening in tech, today (as mentioned in TFA, that’s part of what got Reid interested), it is a big part of the issues behind the recent SAG-AFTRA and WGA strikes in mainstream film/TV. It's happening across a wide range of industries today, not just porn.
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dangus 3y ago

I read another article on HN where an illustrator was saying that if the tools evolve to be more designed for artists, they could be great for cutting down time-consuming aspects of illustration. I’m not an illustrator but I’m guessing things like coloring and shading are areas where AI could make quick work. We saw technological innovations like Disney’s Xerox machine technique that was used for 101 Dalmatians, and of course we saw computer animation basically decimate hand-drawn animation almost entirely. Even in areas where animation is hand drawn, it’s usually done so in a digital workflow. The people out there that are scared of AI and refuse to use it are making a mistake. It’s here. It’s not going to get less capable, it’s going to keep getting more capable. I think the average person should try to be an early adopter to have an advantage in our new world.

iopq 3y ago
Hell, it can give you a finished image
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Workaccount2 3y ago

What does it mean to "work with AI" in the context of the future or even near future? A symbolic job of checking it's outputs? Even if AI doesn't take your job, it almost certainly will take most of the value it has. I don't need a $175k dev when I can use a model and a $60k dev to do the same thing. Or on the graphics side, artists are a dime a dozen, I don't need the cream of the crop if they are just gonna be fixing up mangled AI hands.

hotnfresh 3y ago
> Even if AI doesn't take your job, it almost certainly will take most of the value it has. I don't need a $175k dev when I can use a model and a $60k dev to do the same thing. Current trends in writing & editing appear to be that you need a rare and expensive person to get the kind of whole-number multiplier out of AI tools that people initially expected. And it's still not a large whole number. Give the tools to someone who's not got exception taste and skill, and you're lucky if the multiplier's greater than 1 at all. [EDIT] Exception if your output is expected to be crap and you don't care about accuracy. It's a huge boon to spam of most forms, and astroturfing.
- Workaccount2 3y ago
  I think it's a mistake to use current AI in current times as the status quo in ~5 years from now. AI will likely improve dramatically, as will the general persons ability to work with it. I wouldn't be one bit surprised if typewriter operators outpaced nascent word processor users in the beginning.
  - hotnfresh 3y ago
    > AI will likely improve dramatically, as will the general persons ability to work with it. I'm not so sure about ability to work with it. Middling Excel skills still make you a wizard able to do things nobody else can, in most offices (though not most tech offices). Hell, I've seen knowing how to use the Windows file explorer at a very low level of competence put a person in the top five percent by computer ability in an office. Within the last couple years. Most folks can barely use the tools we have, and aren't going to be able to get good output from anything like the current set of AI tools. The ones who can, won't be cheap, and may be hard to replace like-for-like—I think a lot of companies are going to settle on more, cheaper, more-interchangeable workers than replacing them with a few AI tool experts with hard-to-measure-or-quantify skills. The tools themselves need an added ability to reflect and distinguish reality from imagination and suited-to-task from unsuited-to-task, to get as-much better as they need to be to deliver what some are supposing they surely will, and AFAIK that's not the kind of thing we're going to get with "LLMs, but more and bigger" and related techniques, but will require some new breakthroughs.

dragonwriter 3y ago

> There's a potential future where these discussions (about whether to work with AI or work against it) will be happening across ALL industries, not just in the x-rated one. Uh, that’s not a potential future, its today. It's happening in tech, today (as mentioned in TFA, that’s part of what got Reid interested), it is a big part of the issues behind the recent SAG-AFTRA and WGA strikes in mainstream film/TV. It's happening across a wide range of industries today, not just porn.

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